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Thoughts on Diversified Stock Income Plans (DSIP)?

Posted on 9/26/12 at 2:34 pm
Posted by TigerWerm
7th circle of hell
Member since Nov 2005
5785 posts
Posted on 9/26/12 at 2:34 pm
Please forgive my ignorance, but I'm looking for some other perspectives here....

My financial advisor is trying to steer us into a Diversified Stock Income Plan (DSIP) within my IRA. Sounds like this is typically a mix of 40-50 blue chip type stocks that consistently pay a dividend.

He says it will be no trading fees within the DSIP, but an annual fee of 1.1% of the total balance will apply.

FWIW, I'm 33 years old looking for long term gains.

Any experiences with these?

TIA
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26578 posts
Posted on 9/26/12 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

but an annual fee of 1.1% of the total balance will apply.


Who is this fee going to?
Posted by PlanoPrivateer
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2791 posts
Posted on 9/26/12 at 5:09 pm to
I’d check out Vanguard. Look for stock funds that include “Dividend” or “Income” in their name. Take a good look at their Vanguard 500 Index fund has annual expenses of 0.17%, a current yield of 2.07%, and holds shares of the largest US companies most of which pay dividends. If you have $10,000 or more you can get the Admiral Shares with an expense ratio of only 0.05%. Compare those expenses with what your advisor wants to charge.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9204 posts
Posted on 9/26/12 at 5:19 pm to
You could move your IRA to a self directed plan and invest in ETFs or funds like SDY, HDV, VEIRX, etc for less than half of the wrap fee the guy wants to charge you. Look at Fidelity, Vanguard, Schwab, ETrade, etc. 1.1% is ridiculously expensive as you would likely be giving up > 30% of the dividend yield on the holdings in the account. It is a good deal for the FA, not for you. You can go to bogleheads.org and parse through the Wiki or the fund discussions at morningstar.com to learn some basic info and save yourself a lot of money over the long term.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 9/26/12 at 6:30 pm to
What tirebiter said +a billion.

A 1% annual fee is outrageously high these days.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 9/27/12 at 11:43 am to
S&P 100 index will do the same thing for .15%.

No one can beat the market consistently in mega caps.
Posted by whodatigahbait
Uptown
Member since Oct 2007
1749 posts
Posted on 9/27/12 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

S&P 100 index will do the same thing for .15%.

No one can beat the market consistently in mega caps.


Not Necessarily.

OEF is only yielding right around 2% if this guy really chases yield and gets say 4% minus his fee you are better off. That's a big IF but it's not a complete slam dunk to go with the ETF.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 9/27/12 at 1:47 pm to
Yield is not return.
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