NCAA Mandatory Drug Testing?

Good questions I say!

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If player chooses alchol as drug of choice rather than weed is there then no penalty for abusing it?

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Alcohol isn't illegal.

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Southeastern Conference schools' drug policies differ

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Penalties for failed drug tests vary from school to school. In some cases, those variations are drastic, a point of contention in college athletics.

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While the NCAA administers yearly tests for performance-enhancing drugs, it leaves testing for recreational drugs to its member schools. Ninety percent of Division I schools have their own drug-testing program, the NCAA says. It's up to each institution to set penalty ladders for positive tests.

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Those structures greatly differ, according to a list of major college drug policies compiled by CBSSports.com last year.

Most use a three-strikes-and-you're-out penalty structure — the first offense warranting no action, the second a suspension for a percentage of games and the third a dismissal or a one-year ban.
Others allow three positive tests before dismissal, and some don't have a dismissal policy at all.

They range in severity from Georgia's rigid structure — first positive test, two-game suspension; second, four games; third, dismissal — to the lenient one at Ole Miss, where the first two positive tests call for no penalties.

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Can't really bring TCU into the argument when some SEC schools don't do anything for two failed tests.

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Why do they care if they are smoking pot? It's college for Christ sake. Not like they are out fighting, burglarizing and stuff.

I agree with you there, a lot of tops money gets flushed down the toilet every year

Whether it shold be legal or not, its still illegal

Give it up. I posted why yesterday. Go read about NCAA enforcement of a schools policy. My guess is he faed several tests including a random one conducted by the NCAA. We know of at least 3.

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Does NCAA mandate college football players be drug tested? If yes how often?

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Yes, but my understanding is that they focus only on PEDS and not recreational drugs which is left up to the colleges to test for and enforce. The testing by NCAA is random.

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Assuming all players signing letters of intent get a PE prior to play is drug testing part of the PE?

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No idea. I am assuming PE means Physical exam here.

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If player chooses alchol as drug of choice rather than weed is there then no penalty for abusing it?

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I don't know if any school has rules against alcohol except if it brings on other issues like DUIs and such. Don't think they directly test for it.

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TCU recent drug bust with arrest come to mind.

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The drug bust was back in February so if that is recent to you ok but that was 6 months ago. The stuff about Pachall goes back to that time with the bust happening around Feb 15 and the surprise drug test around the Feb 1st.

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quote from one of the players said only 20 of the teams players passed drug test 60 failed.

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That quote was not under oath and was made to what he thought was a student he was selling marijuana too. Hardly, something that should be taken as gospel. There were leaks from the drug test that said the results were at or roughly under 20% of the team which is about standard compared to most teams. But the media wasn't concerned about such things as they were looking for PSU II.

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"TCU QB Casey Pachall admits drug use, university says nothing to see here Pachall, who threw for a school-record 2,921 yards last season, was never suspended for his actions and won't face any discipline from the athletic department" So is punishment for positive drug test left up to each individual school's policy?

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The punishments are left up to the schools but most schools have about the same policy.
First failed test= warning.
2nd failed test= suspension.
3rd faild test= kicked of the team.

In this case, Pachall failed his first drug test and as such was given a warning and the drug counseling course as according to policy. The information about previous drug use from a year before the failed drug test that he said to the police officer is largely irrelevant. However, its public exposure did cost him the following:
1. Kicked of the team leadership council and loss of captain status
2. Removed from any TCU promotions for football team
3. Removed from promotion as a Heisman candidate in the next couple years.

Source: https://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/15947307/mcmurphys-law-inconsistency-epitomizes-drug-policies

In contrast, the Honey Badger was said to have failed his 3rd drug test which is what led to him being dismissed. If Pachall fails two more tests, he will be gone too. Most people don't learn about failed drug tests because it never officially becomes public as the player is suspended or kicked of the team official for "violating team rules". We never hear about the first failed drug test because there is no outward penalty like a suspension. The only reason we found out about Pachall was because of the drug bust where they arrested the other players and he was questioned. He wasn't even arrested or charged so it is a little ridiculous his quotes to the police even became public record.

The other thing you have to keep in mind is that the Big State Us are not going to have a major 6 month drug sting investigation done. The local police know to not challenge the football team beyond basic possession charges and basic arrests. It is a different situation in Ft Worth where TCU is a small private school (8,500 enrollment) and doesn't have the local police in their pocket. About the only time you ever hear about major drug stings at the Big State Us is when it is federal where they aren't beholden to the locales.

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Are all student athletes on schooly subject to drug testing or just football I apologize for all the ? my curiosity got the best of me.

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I believe so.

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I think tyran was ran off personally.

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do you have anything to substantiate this? like proof? i find it hard to believe the team would run off one of it's best and most celebrated players. just doesn't jive with reality at all.