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Martez Wilson named #2 prospect in NFL
Posted on 7/17/12 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 7/17/12 at 4:30 pm
We limit the pool to players who fit the following criteria:
• Drafted in the third round or later, or signed as an undrafted free agent
• Entered the NFL between 2009 and 2011
• Fewer than five career games started
• Still on their initial contract
• Age 26 or younger in 2012
2. Martez Wilson, DE-LB, New Orleans Saints
Wilson played sparingly in 2011. He produced just one major highlight, sacking Cam Newton on a blitz up the middle for a 16-yard loss. The old regime used Wilson as a situational blitz-package player, when they used him at all. Steve Spagnuolo has moved Wilson from linebacker to defensive end, a more natural position for a player with a Jevon Kearse-meets-Jason Pierre-Paul body type. Wilson, a third-round pick in 2011, played middle linebacker at Illinois, a sign that college and pro coaches have been baffled about where to put a 6-foot-4, 250-pounder with 4.4-range 40-times, 36-inch arms and an over 10-foot standing broad jump. If any coach knows how to get the most out of that kind of player, it's Spagnuolo.
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• Drafted in the third round or later, or signed as an undrafted free agent
• Entered the NFL between 2009 and 2011
• Fewer than five career games started
• Still on their initial contract
• Age 26 or younger in 2012
2. Martez Wilson, DE-LB, New Orleans Saints
Wilson played sparingly in 2011. He produced just one major highlight, sacking Cam Newton on a blitz up the middle for a 16-yard loss. The old regime used Wilson as a situational blitz-package player, when they used him at all. Steve Spagnuolo has moved Wilson from linebacker to defensive end, a more natural position for a player with a Jevon Kearse-meets-Jason Pierre-Paul body type. Wilson, a third-round pick in 2011, played middle linebacker at Illinois, a sign that college and pro coaches have been baffled about where to put a 6-foot-4, 250-pounder with 4.4-range 40-times, 36-inch arms and an over 10-foot standing broad jump. If any coach knows how to get the most out of that kind of player, it's Spagnuolo.
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This post was edited on 7/17/12 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 7/17/12 at 4:33 pm to Faulk07
because it's been a solid 24 hours since one has been posted:
Posted on 7/17/12 at 4:37 pm to geauxtigers87
Prospect?
Is he a 4 or 5 star? Who does he have offers from?
Is he a 4 or 5 star? Who does he have offers from?
Posted on 7/17/12 at 4:38 pm to SJS Eagle 85
From the link:
We limit the pool to players who fit the following criteria:
• Drafted in the third round or later, or signed as an undrafted free agent
• Entered the NFL between 2009 and 2011
• Fewer than five career games started
• Still on their initial contract
• Age 26 or younger in 2012
We limit the pool to players who fit the following criteria:
• Drafted in the third round or later, or signed as an undrafted free agent
• Entered the NFL between 2009 and 2011
• Fewer than five career games started
• Still on their initial contract
• Age 26 or younger in 2012
Posted on 7/17/12 at 4:43 pm to THRILLHO
Hopefully we becomes our shutdown defensive stud
Posted on 7/17/12 at 4:44 pm to Souljah
So is Joe Morgan the #1 prospect in the NFL??
Posted on 7/17/12 at 4:49 pm to THRILLHO
Dude is oozing with potential. My favorite upside player on the D last year and this year.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 5:01 pm to SJS Eagle 85
quote:
Prospect? Is he a 4 or 5 star? Who does he have offers from?
MLB uses the term "Prospect" The term doesn't just apply to high school athletes.
What would you rather call it?
Posted on 7/17/12 at 5:02 pm to Faulk07
The word prospect exists outside of sports.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 5:11 pm to THRILLHO
quote:
• Drafted in the third round or later, or signed as an undrafted free agent
• Entered the NFL between 2009 and 2011
• Fewer than five career games started
• Still on their initial contract
• Age 26 or younger in 2012
Who comes up with this stuff? Why not guys under 6'4", but taller than 5'11 1/2" whose name has two vowels in it, but was born in a month without an "R" in it, but only on even numbered years.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 5:25 pm to Suntiger
I would make a funny comment on this dude being #2 based on apparently one play he made last season but they put Ryan Mallet on the list and he never suited up last year
Posted on 7/17/12 at 5:28 pm to Faulk07
quote:
Jevon Kearse-meets-Jason Pierre-Paul body type.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 6:18 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:
I would make a funny comment on this dude being #2 based on apparently one play he made last season but they put Ryan Mallet on the list and he never suited up last year
Maybe you missed this part
quote:
Fewer than five career games started
That's going to leave you with all guys who haven't played, or have played very little, which is why guys like Mallet and Wilson are on the list.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 6:36 pm to LSUIEGRAD13
Let's HOPE he's as good as an LSU player!
Posted on 7/17/12 at 6:41 pm to DrunkHat
Posted on 7/17/12 at 7:25 pm to Hoodoo Man
could be pat swillinh type player and if he gives the saints that playmaking ability boy would that be great
Posted on 7/17/12 at 7:38 pm to Faulk07
quote:
2. Martez Wilson, DE-LB, New Orleans Saints
Said this the moment we drafted him. Still didn't know how we lucked out with him in the third round. And I love how he left college as a junior so we can think of last season as his senior year.
Now we get to see what he really has...talent wise!
GREAT DRAFT in 2011! Just great!
Posted on 7/17/12 at 8:08 pm to tadelatt
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Still didn't know how we lucked out with him in the third round.
I assume a lot of GM's were scared off because he left school early after missing the previous year due to a herniated disc surgery.
However, after his surgery, he still had 112 tackles and was All Big Ten, so 31 teams apparently missed the memo.
Posted on 7/17/12 at 8:19 pm to LSUFreek
We use IDPs in my FF league. I'm thinking MW will be my monster DL!
Here's more from the article. I'd like to see the complete list
nstead, we use a combination of statistics, measurables, context and expected role to compile a list of under-the-radar players whom we expect to make an impact in the NFL, both in 2012 and beyond.
We limit the pool to players who fit the following criteria:
• Drafted in the third round or later, or signed as an undrafted free agent
• Entered the NFL between 2009 and 2011
• Fewer than five career games started
• Still on their initial contract
• Age 26 or younger in 2012
That last item is new for this season, and is meant to ensure that we list players who could play a significant role in the NFL over the next few years, not just in 2012. To give two examples, running backs Bernard Scott and Isaac Redman are definitely important to their teams' plans this season. But, as each of them is already 28, they aren't really promising players for the long term. Other players who would have made the list if not for the age limit include Jacksonville running back Rashad Jennings, Detroit defensive end Willie Young and Baltimore tight end Dennis Pitta.
In the past, our No. 1 prospects have included wideouts Miles Austin (2009) and Mike Wallace (2010). However, this isn't strictly a fantasy football list; in fact, last year it was the defensive players who made the biggest impact. DT Geno Atkins (sixth) made the Pro Bowl; CB Lardarius Webb (ninth) started 15 games and had 22 passes defensed, earning a huge contract from Baltimore in the offseason; S Morgan Burnett (second) and LB Erik Walden (16th) started most of the year for a team that nearly went undefeated (although Walden will likely lose his starting job to rookie Nick Perry in 2012). Even one of last year's honorable mention defenders, Seattle S Kam Chancellor, made the Pro Bowl as an injury replacement.
You'll see a number of references to Football Outsiders stats on our list, in particular DVOA (defense-adjusted value over average), which takes every play and compares its success to the NFL average based on situation and opponent. You can read more about that and other FO stats on this page.
Here are Football Outsiders' top 25 prospects:
1. Doug Baldwin, WR, Seattle Seahawks
It feels like cheating to include Baldwin on our top prospects list; after all, this is the guy who led Seattle receivers in receptions, yards and touchdowns. He was the first player since the AFL-NFL merger to lead his team in receiving yards as an undrafted rookie. Just for good measure, Baldwin also had 14.2 percent DVOA while every other Seattle receiver with at least 10 targets was below zero. Nevertheless, Baldwin only started one game last year, because he was used strictly as a slot receiver. Out of Baldwin's 86 targets, only two came with just two wide receivers in the formation -- and on one of those plays, Baldwin was actually in the backfield, so the personnel was still three wide receivers. Baldwin is tough going for passes over the middle despite his small size (5-foot-10, 190 pounds). He's good at running precise routes and finding soft spots in zones. The next test is working on the perimeter from two-receiver sets against starting corners instead of nickelbacks.
Here's more from the article. I'd like to see the complete list
nstead, we use a combination of statistics, measurables, context and expected role to compile a list of under-the-radar players whom we expect to make an impact in the NFL, both in 2012 and beyond.
We limit the pool to players who fit the following criteria:
• Drafted in the third round or later, or signed as an undrafted free agent
• Entered the NFL between 2009 and 2011
• Fewer than five career games started
• Still on their initial contract
• Age 26 or younger in 2012
That last item is new for this season, and is meant to ensure that we list players who could play a significant role in the NFL over the next few years, not just in 2012. To give two examples, running backs Bernard Scott and Isaac Redman are definitely important to their teams' plans this season. But, as each of them is already 28, they aren't really promising players for the long term. Other players who would have made the list if not for the age limit include Jacksonville running back Rashad Jennings, Detroit defensive end Willie Young and Baltimore tight end Dennis Pitta.
In the past, our No. 1 prospects have included wideouts Miles Austin (2009) and Mike Wallace (2010). However, this isn't strictly a fantasy football list; in fact, last year it was the defensive players who made the biggest impact. DT Geno Atkins (sixth) made the Pro Bowl; CB Lardarius Webb (ninth) started 15 games and had 22 passes defensed, earning a huge contract from Baltimore in the offseason; S Morgan Burnett (second) and LB Erik Walden (16th) started most of the year for a team that nearly went undefeated (although Walden will likely lose his starting job to rookie Nick Perry in 2012). Even one of last year's honorable mention defenders, Seattle S Kam Chancellor, made the Pro Bowl as an injury replacement.
You'll see a number of references to Football Outsiders stats on our list, in particular DVOA (defense-adjusted value over average), which takes every play and compares its success to the NFL average based on situation and opponent. You can read more about that and other FO stats on this page.
Here are Football Outsiders' top 25 prospects:
1. Doug Baldwin, WR, Seattle Seahawks
It feels like cheating to include Baldwin on our top prospects list; after all, this is the guy who led Seattle receivers in receptions, yards and touchdowns. He was the first player since the AFL-NFL merger to lead his team in receiving yards as an undrafted rookie. Just for good measure, Baldwin also had 14.2 percent DVOA while every other Seattle receiver with at least 10 targets was below zero. Nevertheless, Baldwin only started one game last year, because he was used strictly as a slot receiver. Out of Baldwin's 86 targets, only two came with just two wide receivers in the formation -- and on one of those plays, Baldwin was actually in the backfield, so the personnel was still three wide receivers. Baldwin is tough going for passes over the middle despite his small size (5-foot-10, 190 pounds). He's good at running precise routes and finding soft spots in zones. The next test is working on the perimeter from two-receiver sets against starting corners instead of nickelbacks.
This post was edited on 7/17/12 at 8:23 pm
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