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Tax Question on Cash Value of Life policy

Posted on 5/16/12 at 10:17 am
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65457 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 10:17 am
When you pull it out how is it taxed? What about a loan against the policy? I know there is a difference but I can't remember the specifics.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 10:22 am to
Up to premiums paid is a withdrawal not taxable. Anything over that is a loan in which generally the insurance company charges you interest but also credits you the interest thus creating a wash loan. This is also not taxable. However, if the policy lapses it becomes taxable. At least this is how I remember it.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65457 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 10:26 am to
So if he cashes it out and quits paying premiums, it's taxable. But if he continues to pay premiums, it wouldn't be?
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 10:35 am to
quote:

So if he cashes it out and quits paying premiums, it's taxable. But if he continues to pay premiums, it wouldn't be?


Correct, if he continues to pay premiums a portion of that will go to repayment of the loan. If he surrenders it prior to complete repayment then the remainder becomes taxable along with any interest due.
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:08 pm to
I cashed out three policies last year and got a letter telling me that a portion of the proceeds may be taxable but that it would not be reported on a 1099. In short, you don't need to report it.
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
6618 posts
Posted on 5/16/12 at 12:25 pm to
Yes, you do need to report it if your total withdrawal exceeds cost basis (your premiums).

The gain is taxable at ordinary income rates unless a loan was specified. When the income is requested by the policy owner, you will specify whether you would rather a loan or a withdrawal. Both will reduce the death benefit (assuming Universal Life). The loan being paid back will restore the original death benefit. Unless you decide to purchase additional insurance (and likely incur underwriting) the original death benefit in the event of a withdrawal cannot be restored. The loan would not be taxable unless the policy is eventually surrendered. In that case, your client would get a tax bill from Uncle Sam that would blow them out of the water.

Janky, not all companies administer wash loans. That is a relatively new development. Most of the policies pre-2005 or so have some sort of an interest spread in the favor of the company.
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