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udtiger  LSU Fan Louisiana Member since Nov 2006 18350 posts

| Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 7:50 am)
And when I say "no voter fraud," I actually mean that there may be 180K possible illegals registered to vote in the State of Florida alone.
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wickowick  LSU Fan Head of Island Member since Dec 2006 13392 posts

| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 7:56 am to udtiger)
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Cate said some Florida officials have asked the Obama administration to grant the state access to databases maintained by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to help determine who is a citizen. "We've been requesting access, but have so far been denied," he said.
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CITWTT  LSU Fan baton rouge Member since Sep 2005 25675 posts

| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 8:05 am to wickowick)
The Oboe people will block that request like a MOFO as it will lessen thier vote in one the most important states in November.
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GumboPot  LSU Fan Saints Fan Member since Mar 2009 17654 posts
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| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 8:06 am to udtiger)
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And when I say "no voter fraud," I actually mean that there may be 180K possible illegals registered to vote in the State of Florida alone.
Without even looking it up, I bet over half of those illegal registrations are in Broward and Dade counties.
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Beer did clam BatonRouge, if you call this living Member since Oct 2009 377 posts

| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 9:19 am to GumboPot)
I have always said:"When in doubt, Whip it out" I have been showing pic ID since David Duke ran, get over it!
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gatorrocks  Florida Fan Lake Mary, FL Member since Oct 2007 6683 posts

| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 9:48 am to Beer did clam)
A lawsuit will be filed shortly. It will drag Obama's lawyers away from what he needs to concentrate on.
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Doctor Radical  LSU Fan Austin Member since Feb 2008 10258 posts

| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 9:56 am to udtiger)
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And when I say "no voter fraud," I actually mean that there may be 180K possible illegals registered to vote in the State of Florida alone.
Just as a heads up: MIAMI (Reuters) - Florida election authorities are examining about 180,000 people who they say may not be U.S. citizens but are registered to vote in the state, an official said on Friday. Voter registration fraud is not voter fraud.
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dewster  Maryland Fan TN Member since Aug 2006 4727 posts

| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:01 am to gatorrocks)
The strategy is to increase the work load for voter registrars offices in key swing districts right before the election in hopes that enough illegitimate voters will be registered. It happened in Ohio in 2008. It is part of the foundation of the Obama strategy, but it has gone on for decades.
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Newbomb Turk  Navy Fan perfectanschlagen Member since May 2008 9961 posts

| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:05 am to Doctor Radical)
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Voter registration fraud is not voter fraud.
Yeah, because one isn't meant to lead to the other, right? I'm sorry, but you just can't be this f*ing stupid.
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Doctor Radical  LSU Fan Austin Member since Feb 2008 10258 posts

| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:09 am to Newbomb Turk)
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Yeah, because one isn't meant to lead to the other, right?
Maybe maybe not. Voter registration fraud is far more prevalent than voter fraud. There are other steps between registration and voting that mitigate voter registration fraud (such as comparing lists between various agencies).
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lsu_tiger_az  LSU Fan Arizona Member since Mar 2004 28727 posts

| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:11 am to Doctor Radical)
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Just as a heads up: MIAMI (Reuters) - Florida election authorities are examining about 180,000 people who they say may not be U.S. citizens but are registered to vote in the state, an official said on Friday. Voter registration fraud is not voter fraud.
And rarely does the person shoplifting/speeding/lying/etc. even consider their action is wrong, if they don't get caught.... 
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mule74  LSU Fan Houston, TX Member since Nov 2004 6186 posts

| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:14 am to udtiger)
I just cannot see any argument against voter ID on either financial hardship or even libertarian grounds.
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Newbomb Turk  Navy Fan perfectanschlagen Member since May 2008 9961 posts

| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:15 am to Doctor Radical)
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Maybe maybe not. Voter registration fraud is far more prevalent than voter fraud.
No one is saying that EVERY instance of voter registration fraud leads to a fraudulent vote. But, as a previous poster said, it's about getting as many out there as possible to fill up the time and resources of local officials, and to make it harder to trace. COMMON F'ING SENSE Voter I.D. laws would go a long way to eliminate this. Which is exactly why Democraps will fight this to the death. This is THEIR game. They've been doing this for YEARS. Out of the 180,000 above, if they can get 10-20,000, that could sway the election. It's what ACORN is all about.
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Doctor Radical  LSU Fan Austin Member since Feb 2008 10258 posts

| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:16 am to Newbomb Turk)
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But, as a previous poster said, it's about getting as many out there as possible to fill up the time and resources of local officials, and to make it harder to trace.
No Voter ID law that I'm aware of will prevent this.
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COMMON F'ING SENSE Voter I.D. laws would go a long way to eliminate this
No. They don't. Voter ID laws do not do anything until you actually show up at the polls. Voter registration fraud takes place well before that.
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lsu_tiger_az  LSU Fan Arizona Member since Mar 2004 28727 posts

| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:21 am to Doctor Radical)
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No Voter ID law that I'm aware of will prevent this.
Look at Arizona.... I have to show a Drivers License and Voter Registration Card, and those are compared/verified to the voter rolls before I can get my ballot and vote. 
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Decatur  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2007 15178 posts

| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:26 am to Doctor Radical)
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No Voter ID law that I'm aware of will prevent this.
Absolutely true. Moreover, nothing in the article indicates that they already have evidence that voter registration has actually occurred...they're just looking into it.
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Decatur  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2007 15178 posts

| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:28 am to lsu_tiger_az)
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I have to show a Drivers License and Voter Registration Card, and those are compared/verified to the voter rolls before I can get my ballot and vote.
So?
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jamboybarry  LSU Fan Rill talk Member since Feb 2011 8406 posts

| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:29 am to lsu_tiger_az)
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Look at Arizona.... I have to show a Drivers License and Voter Registration Card, and those are compared/verified to the voter rolls before I can get my ballot and vote.
On a scale of 1 to 10, how disenfranchised are you?
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Choctaw  Navy Fan Pumpin' Sunshine Member since Jul 2007 40448 posts

| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:30 am to Doctor Radical)
whether it prevents it or not.....i've yet to hear one good reason why IDs shouldn't be required to vote
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udtiger  LSU Fan Louisiana Member since Nov 2006 18350 posts

| re: Voter ID laws are racist, and do nothing, as there is no voter fraud out there!! (Posted on 5/14/12 at 10:30 am to Doctor Radical)
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There are other steps between registration and voting that mitigate voter registration fraud (such as comparing lists between various agencies).
Yeah...LIKE VOTER ID LAWS. THESE are what prevent those 180K from actually influencing the election by actually voting.
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