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Its official: Overeem out, Mir to face Dos Santos

Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:29 pm
Posted by ScrapPack
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:29 pm
I think Junior's quickness is going to be too much for Frank.

MMA Junkie
Posted by lsu223
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2133 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:41 pm to
He will probably catch Mir. At least we may get to see how good/bad Junior's grappling is.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:54 pm to
anyone but freaking Mir. Also a bs move from the UFC to pull overeem before his hearing. If he is cleared by the commission he should get the fight. Overeem through recent interviews seems oddly confident he will get his license. Who do they give cain now?
This post was edited on 4/20/12 at 11:58 pm
Posted by Outlaw
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
3363 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:54 pm to
Jr was going to win anyway.
Posted by lsu223
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2133 posts
Posted on 4/20/12 at 11:58 pm to
quote:

Also a bs move from the UFC to pull overeem before his hearing.


Not really. The fight isn't too far away and if you are going to have to throw Mir in, its only fair to give him at least a few weeks to properly train.
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If he is cleared by the commission he should get the fight.


I wouldn't worry about it. It also seems odd that they waited this long to replace Overeem when his hearing is only four days away. It seems to suggest that they have recently found out that Overeem would not be licensed.

The defense offered by Overeem's agent so far is terrible. Because he was not a licensed fighter by the NSAC, they are claiming that there was no jurisdiction for a random test. So basically, Overeem has been taking huge amounts of steroids (which everyone assumed all along) but shouldn't be subject to a random drug screening.
Posted by bagNdrag
Member since Dec 2010
1906 posts
Posted on 4/21/12 at 12:03 am to
JDS is going to rape Mir. Mir has no chance if he tries to stand with him, which would be stupid but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened.
Posted by Mikes My Tiger
Youngsville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/21/12 at 12:04 am to
Plus, after the incident with his last test where his mom just happened to get sick on the day of his drug test, one of the conditions for him to get his liscense was to pass two random drug tests. He has no case.
Posted by lsu223
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2133 posts
Posted on 4/21/12 at 12:07 am to
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his mom just happened to get sick on the day of his drug test,


Not only that, it then took him something like three weeks before he could make his way to a testing lab.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:01 am to
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The defense offered by Overeem's agent so far is terrible. Because he was not a licensed fighter by the NSAC, they are claiming that there was no jurisdiction for a random test.


What is terrible about that defense? It makes perfect sense.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 4/21/12 at 1:33 am to
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Not really. The fight isn't too far away and if you are going to have to throw Mir in, its only fair to give him at least a few weeks to properly train.

they could have waited 4 days for reems hearing. Could be robbing the fans of an excellent fight. Mir is completely outclassed on paper except in Bjj. I don't see how he will get JDS down who has very very good takedown defense. JDS should walk right through him.
This post was edited on 4/21/12 at 3:08 am
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14864 posts
Posted on 4/21/12 at 4:40 am to
yeah, this is going to be a beating. Similar to the Carwin / Mir fight with less clinching.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32603 posts
Posted on 4/21/12 at 5:46 am to
Man, I don't know what to think about this....I just hope Junior knocks his block off. Who is Cain going to fight?

And completely off topic, (figured I'd share anyways), but Chael is still at it

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Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81262 posts
Posted on 4/21/12 at 6:50 am to
Nog almost knocked Mir out with a jab in his last fight. Farewell to Mir's head.
Posted by ScrapPack
Member since Nov 2011
3707 posts
Posted on 4/21/12 at 9:43 am to
quote:

At least we may get to see how good/bad Junior's grappling is.


I don't think Mir can take Junior down, his take down d is pretty solid.

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Also a bs move from the UFC to pull overeem before his hearing. If he is cleared by the commission he should get the fight.


I have a strong feeling that it is not going to be overturned. Like 99.99%

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they could have waited 4 days for reems hearing. Could be robbing the fans of an excellent fight.


Maybe Dana thinks the fight lost all of the build up that it should have received, so he pulled the plug on it and is saving it if AO happens to get cleared.
Posted by lsu223
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2133 posts
Posted on 4/21/12 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

What is terrible about that defense? It makes perfect sense.


It may make sense from a technical standpoint. Letting him fight now would mean that he was free to take whatever he wanted in preparation for this fight because he wouldn't be licensed until roughly a month before.

Practically, this defense sets a terrible precedent and is terrible for the integrity of the sport.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13610 posts
Posted on 4/21/12 at 4:25 pm to
mir is fricking terrible. how does he hold so much clout with dana white? is he lasts a whole round against JDS i will be shocked


i know dana white got put in a bad decision b/c of overeem, but frank mir?? at least give cain another shot to get his title back
Posted by lsu223
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2133 posts
Posted on 4/21/12 at 4:52 pm to
Mir is the only choice Dana had. He is on a three fight win streak and the winner of the Mir/Cain fight was already going to get the next shot. You can't send Cain straight into another fight with JDS before he has gotten at least a win.

Posted by ScrapPack
Member since Nov 2011
3707 posts
Posted on 4/21/12 at 6:18 pm to
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mir is fricking terrible. how does he hold so much clout with dana white? is he lasts a whole round against JDS i will be shocked


Dude, Mir is not terrible. He just broke Big Nogs arm off who was considered the best HW BJJ player in MMA(I know Werdum is considered best now). You can say his standup is not that great or he does not match up well against JDS, but he in not terrible.
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