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wickowick 
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| Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 3/31/12 at 8:37 am)
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Senate Republican staffers continue to look though the 2010 health care reform law to see what’s in it, and their latest discovery is a massive $17 trillion funding gap.
“The more we learn about the bill, the more we learn it is even more unaffordable than was suspected,” said Alabama Sen. Jeff Sessions, the Republicans’ budget chief in the Senate.
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The $17 trillion in extra promises was revealed by an analysis of the law’s long-term requirements. The additional obligations, when combined with existing Medicare and Medicaid funding shortfalls, leave taxpayers on the hook for an extra $82 trillion in health care obligations over the next 75 years.
The federal government has an additional $17 trillion unfunded gap in other obligations, including Social Security, bringing the total shortfall to $99 trillion.
That shortfall is different from existing debt. The federal government already owes $15 trillion in debt, including $5 trillion in funds borrowed during Obama’s term in office so far.
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The extra $17 trillion gap was discovered by applying standard federal estimates and models to the law’s spending obligations, Sessions said.
For example, Session’s examination of the health care law’s “premium support” program shows a funding gap $12 billion wider that predicted.
The same review also showed the law added another $5 trillion in unfunded obligations for the Medicaid program.
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ron4bamam 
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 3/31/12 at 9:42 am to wickowick)
I am sure glad he is the most Transparent president ever.
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PsychTiger
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 3/31/12 at 10:29 am to wickowick)
We had to pass it to see what was in it. Why ruin the surprise by analyzing it before passing it.
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Elcid96
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 3/31/12 at 10:31 am to wickowick)
But...but ...but The Children 
What is the other choice...children dead in the streets, abortions performed in the dumpsters.
There is no price to life...especially when I am spending your money
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davesdawgs 
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 3/31/12 at 10:59 am to PsychTiger)
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We had to pass it to see what was in it. Why ruin the surprise by analyzing it before passing it.
Exactly. Ironically this bull shite bill was probably the least transparent piece of legislation in our history. Anyone who signed off on this unknown quantity should be publicly horse-whipped for incompetence. 
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Cold Pizza 
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 3/31/12 at 11:26 am to wickowick)
Well no shite.
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los angeles tiger
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 3/31/12 at 11:37 am to wickowick)
Why worry about this?!? I'm sure Obama went to the Bank of Shanghai and got a $99 trillion dollar loan from the Chinese beforehand.
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prplhze2000
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 3/31/12 at 12:31 pm to wickowick)
People never discuss the subsidies required under this law to make it work.
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los angeles tiger
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 3/31/12 at 12:38 pm to prplhze2000)
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People never discuss the subsidies required under this law to make it work
That's because they are in a daze staring lovingly at picture of Obama riding a unicorn on top of a rainbow.
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Robot Santa 
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 3/31/12 at 12:53 pm to los angeles tiger)
But...but...I was told that the Democrats would NEVER pass anything like this without the ability to pay for it.
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Bobby Moore
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 3/31/12 at 1:07 pm to wickowick)
His goal is to break the USA, call for Marshal law control, dismiss congress and appoint himself Dictator.....all the blacks, gays and muslims in the miliiary will be his army. The rest are all over seas..........Civil was here we come......
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BamaFan89
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 3/31/12 at 1:44 pm to wickowick)
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The $17 trillion in extra promises was revealed by an analysis of the law’s long-term requirements. The additional obligations, when combined with existing Medicare and Medicaid funding shortfalls, leave taxpayers on the hook for an extra $82 trillion in health care obligations over the next 75 years.
The federal government has an additional $17 trillion unfunded gap in other obligations, including Social Security, bringing the total shortfall to $99 trillion.
Dear Lord 
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real
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 3/31/12 at 1:50 pm to BamaFan89)
If Obama care stands, i feel for medicare and medicade patients because any Doctor worth a shite will no longer see any of them. Thanks Obama, Signed-the poor and elderly
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Champagne 
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 3/31/12 at 2:44 pm to real)
KEEP VOTING DEMOCRAT, AMERICA !!
WE ARE ALMOST THERE !!!
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GallatinTiger
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 3/31/12 at 10:09 pm to PsychTiger)
And the hag below was the House Majority Leader when she said we had to pass it first, to know what's in it...completely amazing...
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Tigah in the ATL
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 3/31/12 at 10:34 pm to wickowick)
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Senate Republican staffers
why would you trust these idiots any more than you trust the Democrat versions?
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Belloq
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 4/1/12 at 11:35 pm to wickowick)
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Senate Republican staffers continue to look though the 2010 health care reform law to see what’s in it, and their latest discovery is a massive $17 trillion funding gap.
The only thing that is surprising to me is that they didn't claim the gap was $100 trillion.
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acgeaux129
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 4/2/12 at 12:24 am to Belloq)
Do you hacks think that the staffers are analyzing and disseminating this quasi-official GOP statement? You clowns think they are just relaying this info to the republican lawmakers to be passed on to constituents without any breakdown of the info by analysts and consultants?
The bill was so massive, they had to have staffers actually sit there and read through the shitpile of information to try and spot any glaring flaws. I don't see why that is so hard to discern from the quoted sentence.
This post was edited on 4/2 at 12:25 am
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LakeViewLSU
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 4/2/12 at 4:26 am to acgeaux129)
Anybody who thinks that one side lies more than the other is dumb. Both Rep. And Dems lie and make up numbers.
Both sides have millions of dumb followers that believe them and curse the other side .
All this while the major corporations are deciding policy. Not the politicians.
Why are people só dumb?
This post was edited on 4/2 at 4:34 am
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cssamerican
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| re: Obamacare might have another surprise, 17 trillion worth... (Posted on 4/2/12 at 6:14 am to LakeViewLSU)
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Why are people so dumb?
For all the complaining you hear here, most people have it so good they care more about who is on Dancing with the Stars than they do about who is representing them in Congress. Even the ones who appear to care really don't, since they do not know how the person they elect and reelect actually votes.
This is why I think Ron Paul is so popular on the boards, yet doesn't have that same appear in actual elections. The general public actually believes the other candidates shtick without ever verifying it by looking at voting records. That is why we are doomed.
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