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The guy from "Sons of Guns" doesn't even own Red Jacket?


Just saw this on Wiki


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During a routine inspection by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) in 2009, Red Jacket could not account for ten registered guns. In a settlement, William Hayden and Stephanie Hayden surrendered their gun-making licenses and were allowed to choose a licensed individual to control Red Jacket. Initially, that person was Vincent Buckles, but Buckles has left the company and now two other individuals control the company.[4]
In a WBRZ article, Attorney Craig Davidson, Jr., said that 10 guns did not go missing from the shop. Instead, one or two guns were stolen during 2001–2008. Davidson claimed the rest of the missing guns were receivers that were thrown away or destroyed when gunsmiths made mistakes. Although Davidson characterized the lost weapons as "simple bookkeeping errors", the ATF requires serial numbered parts to be tracked. Will and Stephanie Hayden did not keep track, so, according to Davidson, Hayden and the ATF mutually agreed to shut down Red Jacket, Inc. The WBRZ article is silent about Will and Stephanie Hayden surrendering any federal firearms licenses.[5]
Davidson further stated that at that time, Hayden was already in discussions with the Discovery Channel about the show and had plans to start another business, Red Jacket Firearms, L.L.C.[6] Will Hayden is not an officer of Red Jacket Firearms, L.L.C. When Davidson was asked why Hayden was not an officer, Davidson stated the reason was a "confidential business decision".[5]
Several "Red Jacket" entities are registered in Louisiana. The first is Red Jacket, Inc. (filed April 6, 1999).[7] The officer is William M. Hayden, but the corporation is not in good standing because it failed to file an annual report. The second is Red Jacket Firearms, L.L.C. (filed May 7, 2010).[8] As of January 7, 2012, the listed officers of the LLC are Joseph Whitney Meaux, Vincent Gordon Buckles, and Charles Riley Watson; neither Will Hayden nor Stephanie Hayden are listed as officers; records show that the listed officers were amended on 7/30/2010 and 6/8/2011.[9] A third entity is Red Jacket International, L.L.C. (filed April 6, 2011).[10] The officer is William M. Hayden. Other "Red Jacket" entities appear to be unrelated.
ATF has issued a federal firearms license (FFL) to Red Jacket Firearms, L.L.C. The (partial) license number is 5-72-xxx-xx-xx-03043.



What's the story with all of this? It's obvious the whole show is staged as hell anyway but this is odd.







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lsufanintexas
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re: The guy from "Sons of Guns" doesn't even own Red Jacket?


You must be from Germany.





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Rickety Cricket
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re: The guy from "Sons of Guns" doesn't even own Red Jacket?


That show is awful, how it stays on the air is beyond me.

And is the worker who dates the daughter mentally handicapped?






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You must be original....wait...no you aren't.





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That show is awful, how it stays on the air is beyond me.

the first season was watchable and after that it went to shite very quickly.






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jamboybarry
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Yeah he's not listed on the LA sec. of state site listing ownership

The whole thing (including his bucktoothed beergut daughter) is a sham

Pretty sure the LLC owns the gun shop and the RJinternational deals with the tv show, merch sales, etc...



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his bucktoothed beergut daughter)



She's horrible






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The whole thing (including his bucktoothed beergut daughter) is a sham

you'd think with all the money they make she would get her mouth fixed. His daughter looks like a swamp rat.






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I don't think they will be moving forward with the next season. i only say that because I have not seen the film crew there in weeks and normally they are.





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i only say that because I have not seen the film crew there in weeks and normally they are.




I guess they ran out of fake customers to stage shite with.

I am curious if whoever owns it now still pays Hayden as an owner or if he is just a figure head now for the show only.






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Will (in addition to acting like the douchebag king of the castle while not actually owning the business) is being sued by some silent partners from the original business that weren't carried over to the new company (the LLC that Joe/Charley own)





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She's horrible


I still laugh at guys who describe her as hot






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stout
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So he is just the talent and face of the TV show? He owned it all prior to the ATF charges though?





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So he is just the talent and face of the TV show?


Basically. As far as the new business is setup it was originally Vince/Joe/Charley ownership but Vince was bought out.

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He owned it all prior to the ATF charges though?


He and snaggletooth






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I love how they're always staging weapons tests for "generals" who just can't be shown on TV. Because when the Special Ops want new weapons technology, they go to Red Jacket.





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I thought I would be lynched if I spoke ill of this show. I am glad I am not the only one that thinks it sucks. This show is so terrible; I would rather watch the BCS championship again. I am not kidding.


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stout
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Nice tan





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Tiger Chemist
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I love how they're always staging weapons tests for "generals" who just can't be shown on TV. Because when the Special Ops want new weapons technology, they go to Red Jacket.


Right! Who actually believes this shit? I also love how they can shoot a tree with a pellet gun, and the damn thing will blow up like Hiroshima.



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