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New MLB CBA helps College Baseball
Posted on 11/22/11 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 11/22/11 at 3:28 pm
valleyshook Pod Katt
Finally got a look at some details on the new MLB CBA. Moving the signing deadline up to July 18th is HUGE for college ball
Maybe this will help getting some more high profile guys into college.
Finally got a look at some details on the new MLB CBA. Moving the signing deadline up to July 18th is HUGE for college ball
Maybe this will help getting some more high profile guys into college.
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Posted on 11/22/11 at 3:31 pm to CatahoulaTigers
It wont help get more high profile guys into college. It will give college coaches more time after the high profile guys sign to get other solid players.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 3:31 pm to CatahoulaTigers
More details on MLB draft rules:
Here's a rundown of the changes that will go into effect in December and last until 2016.
* The Draft signing deadline will move from August 15 to between July 12 and July 18, depending on which day the MLB All-Star Game is. This will allow college teams to better manage their scholarship percentages and rosters. High picks normally wait until the last second to sign, so this just takes out some of the dead time that is far from necessary. It will also give Division I schools an opportunity to purge junior colleges to replace any players that sign professional contracts.
* There will be a luxury tax on teams that spend above an agreed-upon figure for players signed through the annual First-Year Player Draft. In simpler terms, each professional organization will be given a "budget" for all of their draft picks. If an organization exceeds that agreed-upon amount, monetary penalties will be between 75 and 100 percent of the overage, as well as the potential loss of first- and second-round selections. Short of a hard-slot system, this is likely the best college baseball could hope for. It limits teams from throwing out high-dollar contracts to fliers. In my opinion, the large contracts to late-round picks will be limited at best.
Teams that go more than 5 percent over slot get a 75 percent tax. From 5-10 percent over, a 75 percent tax and loss of first round pick the next year. From 10-15 percent over, 100 percent tax and loss of first and second picks. Fifteen percent and higher is 100 percent tax & loss of two first round picks.
For players taken in the 11th round and beyond, teams may give them signing bonuses up to $100,000 without it counting against the new threshold.
According to Baseball America's Jim Callis, 20 organizations went 16 percent or more over slot this year, which would have triggered 100 percent tax and loss of two first rounders.
What's it mean for Ole Miss? Nothing but good news. The Rebels have several signees for the 2012 class that could decide to skip college next summer. With the new legislation, the working theory is that all but the super-high draft picks will have to really consider college because the over-slot signing bonuses will be far less than in past years.
Here's a rundown of the changes that will go into effect in December and last until 2016.
* The Draft signing deadline will move from August 15 to between July 12 and July 18, depending on which day the MLB All-Star Game is. This will allow college teams to better manage their scholarship percentages and rosters. High picks normally wait until the last second to sign, so this just takes out some of the dead time that is far from necessary. It will also give Division I schools an opportunity to purge junior colleges to replace any players that sign professional contracts.
* There will be a luxury tax on teams that spend above an agreed-upon figure for players signed through the annual First-Year Player Draft. In simpler terms, each professional organization will be given a "budget" for all of their draft picks. If an organization exceeds that agreed-upon amount, monetary penalties will be between 75 and 100 percent of the overage, as well as the potential loss of first- and second-round selections. Short of a hard-slot system, this is likely the best college baseball could hope for. It limits teams from throwing out high-dollar contracts to fliers. In my opinion, the large contracts to late-round picks will be limited at best.
Teams that go more than 5 percent over slot get a 75 percent tax. From 5-10 percent over, a 75 percent tax and loss of first round pick the next year. From 10-15 percent over, 100 percent tax and loss of first and second picks. Fifteen percent and higher is 100 percent tax & loss of two first round picks.
For players taken in the 11th round and beyond, teams may give them signing bonuses up to $100,000 without it counting against the new threshold.
According to Baseball America's Jim Callis, 20 organizations went 16 percent or more over slot this year, which would have triggered 100 percent tax and loss of two first rounders.
What's it mean for Ole Miss? Nothing but good news. The Rebels have several signees for the 2012 class that could decide to skip college next summer. With the new legislation, the working theory is that all but the super-high draft picks will have to really consider college because the over-slot signing bonuses will be far less than in past years.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 3:32 pm to CatahoulaTigers
good, maybe this will stop PM from being a ninny baby when it comes to signing day
Posted on 11/22/11 at 3:39 pm to CatahoulaTigers
frick that Draft luxury tax
Screws the small market teams that draft top-end talent players who fall due to signability concerns
Pirates would have never got Josh Bell if this rule was in place
Screws the small market teams that draft top-end talent players who fall due to signability concerns
Pirates would have never got Josh Bell if this rule was in place
Posted on 11/22/11 at 3:41 pm to CatahoulaTigers
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There will be a luxury tax on teams that spend above an agreed-upon figure for players signed through the annual First-Year Player Draft. In simpler terms, each professional organization will be given a "budget" for all of their draft picks. If an organization exceeds that agreed-upon amount, monetary penalties will be between 75 and 100 percent of the overage, as well as the potential loss of first- and second-round selections. Short of a hard-slot system, this is likely the best college baseball could hope for. It limits teams from throwing out high-dollar contracts to fliers. In my opinion, the large contracts to late-round picks will be limited at best.
I'm not a fan of this part.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 3:45 pm to CatahoulaTigers
LINK
The article above explains the luxury tax regarding the draft and how it's really a terrible thing for small market teams that need to build through the draft
God, my day just got shitty
The article above explains the luxury tax regarding the draft and how it's really a terrible thing for small market teams that need to build through the draft
God, my day just got shitty
This post was edited on 11/22/11 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 11/22/11 at 4:33 pm to bddwolfpack
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The article above explains the luxury tax regarding the draft and how it's really a terrible thing for small market teams that need to build through the draft
I didn't read the article but I'll bet that this rule hurts big market teams like the Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers who in the past few drafts and paid players WAY OVER the amount they were slotted for....Ranaudo, Zach Lee and Slade Heatcott come to mind. Detroit is also pretty adept at picking up players later than projected due to "signability issues" and paying them the money they would have gotten if selected where they were projected.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 5:10 pm to paperstreet
This new CBA sucks. Say goodbye to all the multi-sport athletes choosing baseball (Zach Lee/Bubba Starling). With the new restrictions on amateur spending, they'll choose to play football and basketball over baseball in the future. The baseball union must have looked at the recently increased spending in the draft and in Latin America and selfishly decided that the money should go towards major league contracts. This is a huge blow to any team that has allocated their resources towards scouting and the draft (Rangers/Royals). Here are two big additions:
Basically, the new CBA hurts good teams by bringing them down to the bad teams' level instead of forcing the bad teams to step-up. Teams that are successful and make significant revenue are now forced spend it on major league free agents instead of amateurs. Now, there are essentially two amateur drafts and teams get severely penalized for going over "slot." Man, this CBA pisses me off.
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* If you go above aggregate slot for the draft by more than 5%, you lose your next year's 1st rounder. If you go over by more than 10%, you lose your next year's 1st and 2nd rounders. If you go over by more than 15%, you lose your first round picks in each of the next two seasons.
* Teams will be allocated a certain amount that they can spend on the international amateur market, inversely related to their previous year's winning percentage. If you go over that, you lose your rights to sign certain players the next season. Teams can trade dollar amounts from their pools.
Basically, the new CBA hurts good teams by bringing them down to the bad teams' level instead of forcing the bad teams to step-up. Teams that are successful and make significant revenue are now forced spend it on major league free agents instead of amateurs. Now, there are essentially two amateur drafts and teams get severely penalized for going over "slot." Man, this CBA pisses me off.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:01 pm to LSU82BILL
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I didn't read the article but I'll bet that this rule hurts big market teams like the Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers who in the past few drafts and paid players WAY OVER the amount they were slotted for....Ranaudo, Zach Lee and Slade Heatcott come to mind.
Actually, unless I heard wrong, it doesn't really affect first round draft picks as far as the team being penalized for over-paying. It's the 11th round and after that teams start getting penalized.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
Yeah, I'm wrong.
This post was edited on 11/22/11 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:04 pm to paperstreet
I hate this. I loathe it. This is the only way teams like Tampa and KC can compete, and now you are going to limit it?
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:07 pm to lsu31always
I hate it also.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:08 pm to paperstreet
They are also capping international signings.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:10 pm to lsu31always
Ridiculous. If the teams have the money to spend, then let them spend it.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:14 pm to paperstreet
Exactly. If you want to put the international talent into the draft pool, I have no problem with that but to limit teams to 2.9 mill a year is utterly ridiculous.
Posted on 11/22/11 at 11:23 pm to lsu31always
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but to limit teams to 2.9 mill a year
Good lord. I just hope that doesn't mean that international players will stop coming. Seems like that's where a good portion of the talent in the MLB is coming from.
Like you said, I'd rather them put the international talent into the draft.
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