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Career Wins for Tebow: O/U 35?
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:46 pm
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:46 pm
I know we're tackling the Tebowism with reckless abandon tonight, far moreso than the actual Jets bothered to tackle him tonight, but what do you see long term projected upside for Tebow to be.
Personally, I think he can maybe be a Seneca Wallace type or a T Jack type-- not in that he can throw as well as them, but in that he can harness his ability running the ball and build a little-- nothing fancy, mind you -- but a little throwing package-- enough to make him viable as a backup or spot starter type, but never enough to be a big name big time winner.
I believe he will have durability issues, will not always have a defense as good as this year's Broncos, etc., but I do think he may get a little bit longer leash as a starter than most people would have said a month ago.
He's 5-3 as a starter over two years; I don't think he's going to win better than 60% of his games, but in that putrid division, a 50% winning record doesn't seem that outlandish.
It's unlikely the Broncos will move away from him the rest of this year; that'll mean another 6 starts for him, barring injury. I think they probably stick with him into next year, for at least another 7 games. That'll give him another 6 or 7 wins as a starter, IMHO, particularly if they get weak divisional foes early next year.
I think he's going to have durability issues that will pop up when he plays more than 8 games in a stretch. I would set the O/U for his whole career at 35. Where would you guys set it, or do you think it's a clear under or a clear over?
Personally, I think he can maybe be a Seneca Wallace type or a T Jack type-- not in that he can throw as well as them, but in that he can harness his ability running the ball and build a little-- nothing fancy, mind you -- but a little throwing package-- enough to make him viable as a backup or spot starter type, but never enough to be a big name big time winner.
I believe he will have durability issues, will not always have a defense as good as this year's Broncos, etc., but I do think he may get a little bit longer leash as a starter than most people would have said a month ago.
He's 5-3 as a starter over two years; I don't think he's going to win better than 60% of his games, but in that putrid division, a 50% winning record doesn't seem that outlandish.
It's unlikely the Broncos will move away from him the rest of this year; that'll mean another 6 starts for him, barring injury. I think they probably stick with him into next year, for at least another 7 games. That'll give him another 6 or 7 wins as a starter, IMHO, particularly if they get weak divisional foes early next year.
I think he's going to have durability issues that will pop up when he plays more than 8 games in a stretch. I would set the O/U for his whole career at 35. Where would you guys set it, or do you think it's a clear under or a clear over?
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:48 pm to BoardReader
He won't start long enough to get to 35 wins.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:51 pm to castorinho
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He won't start long enough to get to 35 wins.
He won't start 35 games.
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:52 pm to castorinho
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He won't start long enough to get to 35 wins
The math is sort iffy for me there, too. I think it'll be the biggest roadblock.
That said, I don't think Denver's D is going to fold up overnight, and I doubt he's going to regress much throwing the football; 6 more starts this year, and two years as a 15 game starter, and he's going to be in the 22-25 win range, IMHO. If he goes somewhere and gets another 18-25 spot starts over 4 or 5 years, and it's still within the realm of possibility.
Gun to my head, I say it ends up around 27. 35 doesn't sound nearly as unreasonable to me today as it would have a month ago, when I would have put 20 as a ceiling.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 5:55 am to BoardReader
Tebow is a winner. One day u guys will see that. Over easily.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 5:59 am to Hoofhearted
The more people root against him, the more I find myself rooting for him.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 6:37 am to Muahahaha
As bad as Tebow is, he also has a shite ol, shitty running backs, (McGahee really), and shitty, shitty, and really shitty wrs. I have no fricking idea how he keeps winning. I think if Cam has that defense then CAR goes to the layoffs, even though their division is pretty strong.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 6:54 am to Datbayoubengal
Here's a question:
Is tebow going to get better or worse?
If he developes into a better throwing qb, he could have a good career.
Is tebow going to get better or worse?
If he developes into a better throwing qb, he could have a good career.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 7:08 am to TheDoc
He's had many years to do something about that wind up and yet, it still looks the same. Do not anticipate any improvement in passing, although he has suckass receivers now. New and more skilled receivers who are also willing to throw a block on the outside corner would really help.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 7:13 am to Muahahaha
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The more people root against him, the more I find myself rooting for him.
Me too. I'll take the over.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 7:23 am to TheDoc
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Is tebow going to get better or worse?
If he developes into a better throwing qb, he could have a good career.
Considering how hard he works it's only obvious to KNOW he will improve.
Plus his WR's are not good. The play-calling is bad, Crowton-esque.
I'd let him throw it more even though his receivers stink and he is not accurate, but let him work through it and develop into a decent QB.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 7:26 am to BoardReader
Under. He will be replaced after this season and spend the rest of his career as a back-up. The only way he gets 35 wins is if he reinvents the wheel and develops into a NFL QB during the offseason. It didn't happen this past off season, so I don't have much confidence that it will any time soon.
Posted on 11/18/11 at 7:30 am to 4LSU2
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He will be replaced after this season
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It didn't happen this past off season, so I don't have much confidence that it will any time soon.
You mean the offseason that didn't really exist since they were locked out? He had no opportunity to get much better this past offseason.
This post was edited on 11/18/11 at 7:32 am
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