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Why do NFL coaches refuse to kick a FG down by 10 or 11 late in the game?

Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:47 pm
Posted by ryanoz
DFW
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:47 pm
Makes no sense to me.
Posted by AlejandroInHouston
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:48 pm to
Look at the coach in question

No doubt Payton or whisenhunt kick it
This post was edited on 10/10/11 at 10:49 pm
Posted by ryanoz
DFW
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:50 pm to
Happens all the time. Mike Tirico used to be livid on MNF when this would happen. Did he say anything about it tonight? (at a bar watching)
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:53 pm to
Yep. The second I get into reasonable fg range I would spike and then kick a fg, especially with a kicker like Robbie Gould, who does not miss.

Then onside kick and hope to recover and score that TD. I would at least to have my QB throw a bomb into the endzone as time expired (or at least go down trying with an onside) rather than hopelessly have the ball with two scores down at the end.
This post was edited on 10/10/11 at 10:54 pm
Posted by AlejandroInHouston
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:56 pm to
I was disappointed none of the espn guys commented on it.

I wish I was a local media guy to badger a dumbass coach all week about how he's not smarter than a 11 year old who plays madden.
Posted by AlejandroInHouston
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:58 pm to
Coaches who definitely don't kick it

Lovie
Caldwell
Reid
Harbaugh
Ryan
Fox
Gailey
Sparano


Coaches who def kick it
Payton
Whisenhunt
Bellichek
Smith


Thoughts on Tomlin? Turner?
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31072 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:58 pm to
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I wish I was a local media guy to badger a dumbass coach all week about how he's not smarter than a 11 year old who plays madden.

One flaw with this statement:

A lot of people do not kick field goals in Madden.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:59 pm to
Football coaches are often completely irrational

They should have kicked a FG and then went onside kick

They gave themselves about a .02% chance of winning that game with that strategy

You might bump that to about a 5% chance if you kick the field goal. Still very unlikely but you at least give yourself a chance
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 10:59 pm to
Madden Rule!
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:01 pm to
This reminds me of the Packers going for 2 yesterday in the third quarter. Ended up not being a factor, but just a terrible decision.
Posted by AlejandroInHouston
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2007
18776 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:02 pm to
Can we agree on what NFL coaches would not be smart enough to kick?
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36450 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:09 pm to
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Yep. The second I get into reasonable fg range I would spike and then kick a fg, especially with a kicker like Robbie Gould, who does not miss.

couldnt disagree more.
are there times when you should kick it and play for the onside kick to prolong the game and all that shite? of course. do i kick it the second im in reasonable fg range? hell no
Posted by AlejandroInHouston
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2007
18776 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:10 pm to
Def with 18 seconds left though right?
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36450 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:12 pm to
yeah this game, use 5 seconds to boot it, 5 or so to recover the onside kick, and give yourself one hail mary.
Posted by wegotdatwood
Member since Aug 2009
17094 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:12 pm to
quote:

couldnt disagree more.
are there times when you should kick it and play for the onside kick to prolong the game and all that shite? of course. do i kick it the second im in reasonable fg range? hell no



When you're down without any timeouts? Hell yeah you kick the FG.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36450 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:14 pm to
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When you're down without any timeouts? Hell yeah you kick the FG.

ok so i cross the 40 yard line with 1 minute left and no timeouts (down 10) and i should just kick a fg on first down? frick no
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31072 posts
Posted on 10/10/11 at 11:27 pm to
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ok so i cross the 40 yard line with 1 minute left and no timeouts (down 10) and i should just kick a fg on first down? frick no

Kick a 40 or 45 yarder, not some 57 yard bullshite.
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
5356 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 12:57 am to
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Why do NFL coaches refuse to kick a FG down by 10 or 11 late in the game?



OK...what did I miss? Did the Bears not kick a field goal with 4 min. left down 11 to make it an 8 point game?
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33874 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 1:24 am to
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OK...what did I miss? Did the Bears not kick a field goal with 4 min. left down 11 to make it an 8 point game?


on the final drive when they completed that pass that got them past the 40 with just under a minute left...if they spike it and kick the FG there (assuming he makes it) you then would get to attempt an onside kick down 8 and at least get a couple plays and then a hail mary shot at the endzone

instead they had to run up to the ball after that first down, the clock kept ticking and they ran two or three more plays and then just ran out of time at the 3 yard line without ever getting a chance

you have a better chance of winning by kicking the FG whenever you get close enough IMO
This post was edited on 10/11/11 at 1:25 am
Posted by LSUPHILLY72
Member since Aug 2010
5356 posts
Posted on 10/11/11 at 1:40 am to
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.if they spike it and kick the FG there (assuming he makes it) you then would get to attempt an onside kick down 8 and at least get a couple plays and then a hail mary shot at the endzone


They were down 8...if they kick a field goal they are down 5 and still need a TD.
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