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Waiting on the offense...
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:48 pm
The 2011 version of the LSU defense, barring a total collapse down the stretch, will make an argument for placement among the legendary LSU defensive units of the past.
The offense is unlikely to be included in that discussion, despite the fact they have played fairly well thus far. The production has been barely above average. On the other hand, the offense has handled challenges (Oregon is a well-regarded team that played with a Newton-led Auburn juggernaut just a few months ago - MSU has a well-coached, big, strong defensive unit), made few mistakes and done what has been asked of them.
We are waiting to see if the offense can consistently uncork it's potential and score big, either to finish an opponent (and, to be fair, they did in convincing fashion to Oregon and NSU - albeit off of a slow start), or will they be good enough for wins only because of the stellar defensive unit.
My personal opinion is the offense has been held back, partially because of limited QB depth, no legitimate running threat from the QB position, Shep's suspension (and, really, the first 2 points are partially due to JJ's suspension) and the desire to control the tempo and run the ball to set up the run later.
Why show a more explosive offense until we need to?
The offense is unlikely to be included in that discussion, despite the fact they have played fairly well thus far. The production has been barely above average. On the other hand, the offense has handled challenges (Oregon is a well-regarded team that played with a Newton-led Auburn juggernaut just a few months ago - MSU has a well-coached, big, strong defensive unit), made few mistakes and done what has been asked of them.
We are waiting to see if the offense can consistently uncork it's potential and score big, either to finish an opponent (and, to be fair, they did in convincing fashion to Oregon and NSU - albeit off of a slow start), or will they be good enough for wins only because of the stellar defensive unit.
My personal opinion is the offense has been held back, partially because of limited QB depth, no legitimate running threat from the QB position, Shep's suspension (and, really, the first 2 points are partially due to JJ's suspension) and the desire to control the tempo and run the ball to set up the run later.
Why show a more explosive offense until we need to?
This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:50 pm to Ace Midnight
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My personal opinion is the offense has being held back, partially because of limited QB depth, no legitimate running threat from the QB position
You do not need the threat of the run from the QB position to be successful on offense.
Carry on.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:52 pm to MandevilleLSUTiger
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You do not need the threat of the run from the QB position to be successful on offense.
While that's true, I think it closes portions of the offense. I didn't say we weren't successful, I said we haven't been explosive so far - you don't have to run to be explosive, but you have to have big runs out of the QB or a deep passing game to be explosive, in my opinion.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:53 pm to Ace Midnight
give it time. 33 ppg (yeah, we'll dip slightly), 400 ypg by season's end. book it.
This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:55 pm to Ace Midnight
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didn't say we weren't successful, I said we haven't been explosive so far
Poor choice of words by me.
You do not need the threat of the run from the QB position to be explosive on offense.
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deep passing game to be explosive
This is coming. In consecutive games Randle has caught passes of more than 30 yards.
We'll get a deep pass to the house soon.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:57 pm to MandevilleLSUTiger
False. When the play breaks down,which is about 5 times per game, and your QB can run, it has value. Also, having JJ back there with wheels is like having a 3rd) back there and the defense has to keep a DB or LB on him at all times which frees up other players. Carry on.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 3:57 pm to MandevilleLSUTiger
Yes we need a quarterback that will make defenses respect the run and pass and lee does not fit the bill and the coaches can protect him only for so long. Defenses will start getting to him and I hope he proves us wrong.
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:01 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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the defense has to keep a DB or LB on him at all times which frees up other players
Defenses didn't play spy on JJ very often last year so I'm not sure if this is an accurate statement.
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When the play breaks down,which is about 5 times per game, and your QB can run, it has value.
If said QB was better at reads he probably wouldn't need to run so much.
This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 9/19/11 at 4:02 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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False. When the play breaks down,which is about 5 times per game, and your QB can run, it has value. Also, having JJ back there with wheels is like having a 3rd) back there and the defense has to keep a DB or LB on him at all times which frees up other players. Carry on.
I'm not disputing the fact a QB who can run can add value. But a QB who can run is not a prerequisite for an explosive offense.
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