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Legal question regarding the process
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:06 am
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:06 am
Is it possible that evidence between now and a grand jury or trial (not sure how that works)such as a witness or something could come forward and present itself that would allow for charges against JJ and Johns to be dropped or has that shipped sailed?
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Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:12 am to texastigerr
of course it is possible.. more than likely not a new witness, but in the discovery process between both parties, new evidence or analysis of the facts could help him out.. but it doubt it. Start planning for Lee because JJ will never take another snap at LSU
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:15 am to texastigerr
IMO, if there is found to be no trace evidence on JJ's shoes the case against him crumbles.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:19 am to texastigerr
quote:Yes. Absolutely. Even up through trial. After trial, it gets more complicated.
Is it possible that evidence between now and a grand jury or trial (not sure how that works)such as a witness or something could come forward and present itself that would allow for charges against JJ and Johns to be dropped or has that shipped sailed?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:23 am to MightierThePenIs
So is it too soon for trace evidence to have been found on the shoes that they took away and they arrested him on other evidence and they are still waiting for results of evidence on the shoes?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:33 am to texastigerr
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So is it too soon for trace evidence to have been found on the shoes that they took away and they arrested him on other evidence and they are still waiting for results of evidence on the shoes?
They're in a regular crime lab cycle. Probably 10 days to 2 weeks.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:33 am to texastigerr
quote:The EBR district attorney, Hillar Moore, said on Friday he is presenting the case to a grand jury. So a majority of the grand jury members must agree there is enough evidence to convict the players and to put them on trial.
Legal question regarding the process
I don't think a grand jury will issue such an indictment and the charges will be dropped.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:35 am to LSURussian
When is the grand jury taking place?
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:37 am to LSURussian
Obviously like a lot of people watching this story, I was not there. JJ and the rest should not have been there (IMO) and I'm not a lawyer but it just seems this thing has a lot of moving parts and a lot of people at fault. With so many versions it seems this will be hard for a Grand Jury or Jury to do anything without a lot of doubt involved.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:41 am to LSURussian
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I don't think a grand jury will issue such an indictment and the charges will be dropped.
It depends on when it gets on the docket. If the DNA evidence is there to support it, they MAY go after the charges. However, even if it were there, JJ's defense could be he stepped on it while walking through the parking lot. So I fully expect this to be a useless effort by the BRPD with conflicting testimonies of " eye witnesses".
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:45 am to LSURussian
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The EBR district attorney, Hillar Moore, said on Friday he is presenting the case to a grand jury
No, thats not what he said.
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East Baton Rouge Parish District Attorney Hillar Moore III said he will consider bringing the case before a grand jury instead of deciding whether to charge the players.
The Advocate
I am telling yall, he would rather plea this down. Not going to happen though.
This post was edited on 8/27/11 at 11:48 am
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:46 am to Vol Fan in the Bayou
Yes, there is still time for you to "confess".
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:50 am to HurricaneDunc
quote:The grand jury is a standing body that is always ready to be called into session by the district attorney.
When is the grand jury taking place?
They can meet, hear the evidence and hear testimony from witnesses and/or from the accused anytime the DA wants to present the case to them.
Knowing Hillar Moore, he will do that this coming week if I had to guess. At the latest, it will be within two weeks.
If the grand jury believes there is not enough evidence to "reasonably" expect a conviction, it can vote "no bill" which means no indictment and the charges can be dropped, unless the DA decides on his own to prosecute, which Hillar Moore won't do.
If he wanted to do that, he could indict the accused on his own without presenting it to a grand jury.
IMO, this is Hillar Moore's way of getting the charges dropped without him looking like he did favors for LSU.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:53 am to Vol Fan in the Bayou
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No, thats not what he said.
You left out this quote by Moore:
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If the case is primarily based on contradictory statements from witnesses, Moore said the best way to secure the truth might be to bring it before a grand jury.
“That’s the only way to get witness statements under oath,” he said, adding that the case has been assigned to state District Judge Chip Moore.
It's already decided to present the case to a grand jury.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 11:57 am to LSURussian
What kind of time table we talking about? To me it would seem at least 3-4 weeks before a grand jury.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:04 pm to Lithium
Read the link posted by Vol Fan.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:07 pm to LSURussian
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I don't think a grand jury will issue such an indictment and the charges will be dropped.
I'm thinking this will be the case simply because any grand jury empaneled by the DA will likely be 100% comprised of LSU fans.
If you live in BR, you'd have to be residing under a rock to have not heard about any of this.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:18 pm to Godfather1
quote:Uhhhh . . . no.
any grand jury empaneled by the DA will likely be 100% comprised of LSU fans.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:20 pm to texastigerr
New evidence can come up at anytime.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 12:22 pm to just me
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Uhhhh . . . no.
Being that it will be an EBRP grand jury, what exactly leads you to believe it won't be?
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