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I'm spinning tackle challenged
Posted on 4/16/11 at 10:59 am
Posted on 4/16/11 at 10:59 am
Anybody else have this problem ? I started out fishing as a kid with spincasters like everybody else , fished a lot as a kid but at some point I just stopped. About 20 years later I rediscovered my love for fishing and the transition to baitcasters felt very natural , I picked them up easily and never really had any backlash issues.
Over the years I've tried to use spinning tackle many times and it drives me freaking crazy ! I feel like a flat out Ra-tard using the stuff , flipping that bail thing seems unnatural , my release point is always off and my accuracy is pathetic at best. It just feels like I'm fishing with some weird contraption
The only reel I've found that I can use even remotely well is a shimano with a "quick fire" feature that keeps me from having to touch the bail. The only reason that I even care at this point is that I've really gotten into light tackle fishing recently and using spinning tackle would open up some more options for me as far as equipment goes.
Any words of wisdom or other insight from my fellow OB posters would be greatly appreciated !
Over the years I've tried to use spinning tackle many times and it drives me freaking crazy ! I feel like a flat out Ra-tard using the stuff , flipping that bail thing seems unnatural , my release point is always off and my accuracy is pathetic at best. It just feels like I'm fishing with some weird contraption
The only reel I've found that I can use even remotely well is a shimano with a "quick fire" feature that keeps me from having to touch the bail. The only reason that I even care at this point is that I've really gotten into light tackle fishing recently and using spinning tackle would open up some more options for me as far as equipment goes.
Any words of wisdom or other insight from my fellow OB posters would be greatly appreciated !
Posted on 4/16/11 at 11:04 am to learnthehardway
I actually fished spinning gear a lot when I was younger, so the transition to baitcaster wa awkward to me.
Like anything, the more you use it the more natural it will feel. I still have trouble for the first ten or so casts if I've been fishing one and pick up the other though
Like anything, the more you use it the more natural it will feel. I still have trouble for the first ten or so casts if I've been fishing one and pick up the other though
Posted on 4/16/11 at 11:24 am to Boats n Hose
Me too man. I feel like a little girl trying to throw one. Baitcast FTW
Posted on 4/16/11 at 11:52 am to PapaPogey
If I could find a true ultra light spinning reel with that "quick fire" thingie on it i would be in pretty good shape , without that I think it's hopeless
Posted on 4/16/11 at 12:37 pm to learnthehardway
Its really not a hard thing to do.
I fish spinning and baitcasters both with no problem. I started out with spinning reels and went to baitcasters when I was around 40 years old. I can fish one or the other.
I can give lessons for a mere 50 dollars an hour if you'd like.
I fish spinning and baitcasters both with no problem. I started out with spinning reels and went to baitcasters when I was around 40 years old. I can fish one or the other.
I can give lessons for a mere 50 dollars an hour if you'd like.
Posted on 4/16/11 at 1:16 pm to Tiger 79
I have actually been thinking I just need somebody to show me how properly use the stuff.
Posted on 4/16/11 at 1:29 pm to learnthehardway
There are a few tips that will help you with spinning tackle. One is how you load the line on the reel. Make sure the line is coming off your filler spool in a counterclockwise direction. This will put the line on your spinning reel in the correct direction and lessen line twist. Make sure you check the end of the rod a few times as you are loading the line on the reel for twist. If it is twisted, flip the filler spool over for a few turns then back over so its coming off in a counterclockwise direction.
Never close the bail with the reel. Make sure you close the bail by hand. One of the most important things with a spinning reel is to keep the line tight and uniform on the spool. You can accomplish this by feathering the line as you cast then stopping the line from coming off the spool as soon as your lure hits the water. Then close the bail with your off hand and just tug the line a little to make sure it has no loops in it. This will save you more headaches than you will ever know.
I use spinning tackle here with my service about half the time. Most people that I teach a few tips too end up loving spinning tackle. It is just a tool that has its place. We do a lot of vertical fishing here since the water is so deep and clear. Spinning tackle is a must for a lot of that fishing.
Also make sure the line size is good for the reel you are using. For 2500 series spinning reels, do not go over 10 pound test. You will usually cause some headaches with 12 on that size reel. Step up to a 4000 size reel for bigger line.
Hope this helps
Never close the bail with the reel. Make sure you close the bail by hand. One of the most important things with a spinning reel is to keep the line tight and uniform on the spool. You can accomplish this by feathering the line as you cast then stopping the line from coming off the spool as soon as your lure hits the water. Then close the bail with your off hand and just tug the line a little to make sure it has no loops in it. This will save you more headaches than you will ever know.
I use spinning tackle here with my service about half the time. Most people that I teach a few tips too end up loving spinning tackle. It is just a tool that has its place. We do a lot of vertical fishing here since the water is so deep and clear. Spinning tackle is a must for a lot of that fishing.
Also make sure the line size is good for the reel you are using. For 2500 series spinning reels, do not go over 10 pound test. You will usually cause some headaches with 12 on that size reel. Step up to a 4000 size reel for bigger line.
Hope this helps
Posted on 4/16/11 at 3:22 pm to learnthehardway
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If I could find a true ultra light spinning reel with that "quick fire" thingie on it i would be in pretty good shape , without that I think it's hopeless
There is lots of good advice from the poster above me btw.
Quantum snapshot is the reel you are looking for in the ultralight size then. I dont like the placement of the the drag but it has the trigger you are looking for.
Posted on 4/16/11 at 4:02 pm to Bleeding purple
Cool , I didn't know quantum made one like that. They make one designed for 4 or 6 lb test ?
Posted on 4/16/11 at 4:05 pm to learnthehardway
Posted on 4/16/11 at 5:52 pm to learnthehardway
Posted on 4/16/11 at 6:00 pm to Geauxtiga
The snap shots are different than the hypercasts. I do find that the "firing pin" on the snapshot (the thing that holds the line) is prone to break off so I place a drop of super glue where it is inserted at the begining of every season.
Posted on 4/16/11 at 6:52 pm to Bleeding purple
Thanks ! I'll have to pick one of those up soon just to check it out.
Posted on 4/16/11 at 6:53 pm to learnthehardway
Lanier spots has some good advice, but one thing I would like to add is quality. I saw you posted that a Shimano is somewhat working for you and there is a reason for that. To get the most out of spinning gear you need to get quality equipment. Shimano, Daiwa, Quantum, etc...
You can't buy a Wal-mart spinning reel and expect performance.
I am by no means saying you're using the cheap stuff now, but just wanted to add this in for advice.
You can't buy a Wal-mart spinning reel and expect performance.
I am by no means saying you're using the cheap stuff now, but just wanted to add this in for advice.
Posted on 4/16/11 at 6:55 pm to dawgfan1979
I never really cared to start fishing a baitcaster. I love my penn 5500 for inshore/marsh, 8500 for offshore, and ultralight for freshwater
Posted on 4/17/11 at 2:20 am to LSU Tigershark
like dawgfan said though the snapshots are not high quality reels and they will tend to wear down afer a while.
Posted on 4/17/11 at 11:26 am to learnthehardway
1. Practice-practice....practice. Purchase a rubber casting plug and place a coffee can or other suitable target in an open space devoid of trees, electrical lines and automobile windshields. I taught my 8 year old grandson how to cast a spinning reel last summer and that was lesson number one (just the way my dad started me). Fishing with him was...challenging. Casts arching into space at times but he got the hang of using the open face reel. Before the end of summer he caught his first red (23inches)and lots of trout (largest @ 18inches)unassisted.
2. LanierSpots and dawgfan1979 also give excellent advice. If you are serious about using spinning tackle purchase the best quality reel and rods you can. 6'6" med/heavy rods would probably be best for accuracy. Longer rods for distance. I use 4lb/15lb test Power Pro on my 2500 reels with a 20lb florocarbon shock leader. If you require heavier line stay with the bait casters.
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2. LanierSpots and dawgfan1979 also give excellent advice. If you are serious about using spinning tackle purchase the best quality reel and rods you can. 6'6" med/heavy rods would probably be best for accuracy. Longer rods for distance. I use 4lb/15lb test Power Pro on my 2500 reels with a 20lb florocarbon shock leader. If you require heavier line stay with the bait casters.
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Posted on 4/17/11 at 11:31 am to FrenchJoe
quote:Agree. If you can't put your bait where it needs to be...
that was lesson number one (just the way my dad started me)
Even bream fishing yesterday with my boss. I'd flip my cricket tween two trees, etc. and caught 20 while he caught only one and I mean ONE. For the most part, he would cast where it was comfortable and the couple times he tried to get close to the trees he hung up.
Posted on 4/17/11 at 12:49 pm to Geauxtiga
As for the baitcasters tighten your cast sontrol knob enough so as that the spool still gives freely but that the spool doesn't overrun when you let a lure fall to the ground on it. It will seem too tight at first but little by little as you feel more comfortable you can loosen the cast control knob until you can wing that thing a country mile. You may want to start with a heavier type lure to practive with - like a zara spook.
Posted on 4/17/11 at 5:19 pm to FrenchJoe
My accuracy with a baitcaster isn't an issue , I can put it exactly where I want it 95% of the time either casting or flipping , I'm only slightly less accurate with my UL spincasters. If I'm using my thumb I'm good and I think that's why I struggle with the spinning gear.
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