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do they really just close shop?

Posted on 4/6/11 at 8:48 am
Posted by BigErn
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 4/6/11 at 8:48 am

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Posted by The Easter Bunny
Minnesota
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:02 am to
I'm guessing they have shitty quarters/years and people withdraw enough money that they have to close.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:19 am to
Either that or they get too big to execute their strategy and/or feel like their niche is gone/opportunities aren't there and they liquidate. It doesn't necessarily mean the investors lose money. I really don't like how people try and group hedge funds into an "asset class." They are very clearly unique entities. The only commonalities are that they typically involve rich people and lots of money.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:49 am to
The problem any hedge fund manager faces is that they ask for very large fees. Of course, investors expect commensurately large returns - just keeping pace with the market is not enough When that happens, current investors leave in droves and it becomes very hard to attract new ones.

So the fund sells everything they have, returns money to investors as much as possible, and closes. The fund manager may or may not be able to try again later under a different name. But basically a new fund has to get really good returns fairly quickly or it dies.
Posted by MightierThePenIs
Member since Jan 2008
1510 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:51 am to
Recipe for Madoffs.

When will investors ever learn?
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:06 am to
Say what? Madoff got so out of hand because he existed for so long. Non-complacent investors expecting high returns and pulling funding quickly is precisely what prevents Madoff-like events from happening.
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