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Posted on 3/10/11 at 7:27 am
Posted by The Rodfather
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 7:27 am
If I install the banks bullet on a 2006 ford 250, and then remove it will the dealership be able to tell that it was ever there?
Posted by lazcreek
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 7:28 am to
Do you still have factory warranty left?
Posted by TexasTiger
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 7:34 am to
Most places won't make a big deal about it, but they will wipe the computer clean and reset back to factory. And I was told if the dealer wants to dig long enough they know you had a tuner.

Also tuned up 6.0's tend to have problems in general so proceed with caution.
Posted by The Rodfather
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 7:35 am to
I do still have a factory warranty. I was told the 6.0l was having problems once tuned over 90-100 extra horses, but prior to that was still safe.
Posted by TexasTiger
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 7:39 am to
Well just for less of a head ache and the issues the 6.0 is known for I would not put a tuner on until my warranty was out, if something happens to that motor and its tuned Ford will fight you tooth and nail to honor it and blame the tuner for the engine failure.
Posted by lazcreek
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 7:40 am to
I had a 6.0 with a tuner and blew the head gasket at 75,000 miles. i took off the tuner and the dealership fixed it. He did not ask any questions. They can find the tuner if they want to.
Posted by The Rodfather
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 7:41 am to
Thank you for the heads up.
Posted by The Rodfather
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 7:41 am to
what dealership did you take it to?
Posted by lazcreek
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 7:46 am to
Robinson
Posted by DieselTiger1
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 8:34 am to
they will propbably be able to trace it. Its really up to the discretion of the dealership to give you shite about it or not. Also, they cant just void your warrenty, they would have to prove that the problems you are having were caused by the tuner.

Is the bullet advertised as untraceable?
This post was edited on 3/10/11 at 8:36 am
Posted by The Rodfather
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 8:38 am to
quote:

Is the bullet advertised as untraceable?


No, it is just the only tuner i can find that the max increase is still in the safe range for the 6.0l without other modifications


ETA: does exhaust and cold air intake void warranties?
This post was edited on 3/10/11 at 8:39 am
Posted by DieselTiger1
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 8:43 am to
again, if they can prove that it caused the damage.
check this out. Magnuson-Moss Act

quote:

a vehicle manufacturer or dealership cannot void a warranty simply because an an aftermarket equipment has been installed on a vehicle


I have a lot done to my truck and havent had any warranty issues.
This post was edited on 3/10/11 at 8:46 am
Posted by YOURADHERE
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 10:15 am to
Banks advertises their shite as being safe for the 6.0 but don't take their word on it. As mentioned the burdon of proof is on the dealer to prove an aftermarket part has been the sole cause of the problem. With the 6.0 having known head stud issues Ford is kinda in a pickle since even stock trucks have been known to stretch studs.

Personally if I owned a 6.0 I'd leave the bitch alone unless I dropped the major coin to put aftermarket studs. Unless you can do it yourself you're looking about atleast $2-3000, maybe more. My father had an 07 6.0 that he added the full Banks kit too. Not the 6 Gun but the other kit that's more tow friendly. Intake, intercooler, exhaust, tuner, all that good stuff. The truck was never dogged, or run hard. Basically just used for hauling cattle trailer, boats, and his huge 5th wheel. About 10,000 miles after the install the truck began burning coolant. A sure sign of stretching head studs. Before it got too bad/fully blew he traded it in for a 6.4. It seems with the 6.0 you either get a good one or a bad one. A good friend of mine's father has a welding truck with a 6.0 and has 230,000 miles with zero issues. Seems to be hit or miss I guess.
Posted by The Rodfather
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 10:20 am to
god i hope i hit
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 10:49 am to
Its fine to run a programmer on a 6.0. Yes you hear about alot of people that blow head gaskets, but those result from failing to monitor Exhaust gas temps. An exhaust and intake can help lower them as can an EGR Delete (cant really do EGR till after warrenty though).

The other problem people have with the 6.0 is bent/warped vanes in the turbo. This is caused by insufficient cool down. Head over to Powerstroke.org and you will learn everything you need to know about these trucks.
Posted by chadg
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 11:23 am to
quote:

Personally if I owned a 6.0 I'd leave the bitch alone unless I dropped the major coin to put aftermarket studs. Unless you can do it yourself you're looking about atleast $2-3000, maybe more. My father had an 07 6.0 that he added the full Banks kit too. Not the 6 Gun but the other kit that's more tow friendly. Intake, intercooler, exhaust, tuner, all that good stuff. The truck was never dogged, or run hard. Basically just used for hauling cattle trailer, boats, and his huge 5th wheel. About 10,000 miles after the install the truck began burning coolant. A sure sign of stretching head studs. Before it got too bad/fully blew he traded it in for a 6.4. It seems with the 6.0 you either get a good one or a bad one. A good friend of mine's father has a welding truck with a 6.0 and has 230,000 miles with zero issues. Seems to be hit or miss I guess.



I am actually looking at getting a used ford diesel.. in your opinion should i go with the 06-07 years with the 6.0 or go with an 08 with a 6.4... i have heard the fuel mileage is much better on the 6.0s and for some reason the prices are a lot better on the 06-07 models. But i absolutely love the inside of the 08...
Posted by INFIDEL
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 11:28 am to
quote:

cant really do EGR till after warrenty though).


Isn't this the delete pipe? I have an 09 and was really wanting to do this. 10-11 miles/gallon is killing me. Want to do it, but scared of voiding my warranty.
Posted by The Rodfather
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 11:29 am to
FWIW, The problems were "fixed" with the 2006 6.0l matter or fact there were less recalls with the 6.0l diesel then any other engine ford has made. they stopped putting them in trucks because of regulations, but their commercial vehicles kept the 6.0l even when the 6.4 came out. I have heard that the 6.4 was garbage and that is why it only lasted 2 years...that is just what i gathered from my research when i was looking for my truck. That being said i have still heard of issues in the 06's but not in 07's which makes me believe the problem was fixed in 06 not for 06...look at the door and see when your truck was actually made, not the model year. hope that helps.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Want to do it, but scared of voiding my warranty.


As soon as my power train warranty is up on my chevy 2500HD that dpf is getting trashed.

On another note my damn power locks quit working 500 miles after my bumper to bumper expired fricking government motors my next truck will be a Ford.
Posted by The Rodfather
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Isn't this the delete pipe? I have an 09 and was really wanting to do this. 10-11 miles/gallon is killing me. Want to do it, but scared of voiding my warranty.



off topic: I have 20,000 miles left on my warranty and realized that my computer wasn't calibrated for the tires that are on it. when i go 1000 miles the truck reads 800ish. I was freaking out about my mileage till i realized it is roughly 20% better then i am actually getting. I was going to fix it but then thought that would be retarded to do because my warranty will last longer this way.
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