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NCAA probation and USC next year
Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:35 pm
It'll be interesting to see if the NCAA penalties will start to affect USC next year.
USC had 2 junior linemen declare for the NFL draft today and they can only sign 15 scholarships in Feb instead of the normal 25. Even though they have a post-season ban, they have a decent recruiting class coming in: 2 5* and 6 4*. LINK They have 19 commitments listed, so not all of them will be signed this year.
Prediction: another 8-5 year.
USC had 2 junior linemen declare for the NFL draft today and they can only sign 15 scholarships in Feb instead of the normal 25. Even though they have a post-season ban, they have a decent recruiting class coming in: 2 5* and 6 4*. LINK They have 19 commitments listed, so not all of them will be signed this year.
Prediction: another 8-5 year.
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Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:37 pm to GeauxTigersLee
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they can only sign 15 scholarships in Feb instead of the normal 25
only if the appeal is ruled on by signing day
If not, SC can take a full 25 plus about 8 or 9 early enrollments
Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:41 pm to usc6158
The reality was the sanctions affected us this past season. We have a tough road for the next couple of years, even if the appeal lessens the penalties.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:47 pm to loweralabamatrojan
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The reality was the sanctions affected us this past season
I know USC lost about 4 players from transfers and Seantrel Henderson didn't sign after committing. Did that really affect USC this year?
How much of the 8-5 season do you attribute to Lane Kiffen?
Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:49 pm to loweralabamatrojan
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The reality was the sanctions affected us this past seas
i was wondering about this. How did they affect USC this season? I understand USC had a down year, but it seems like this was a little early for the sanctions to have any affect.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 1:58 pm to bamaatlsu
I think the sanctions hurt us by taking depth away from us. We had a few key underclassmen that weren't starters, but would have definitely seen valuable playing time, transfer.
As far as our losses and blaming Kiffin goes, we really shouldn't have lost either the ND or UW games. Poor execution was the reason that we lost, and poor tackling.
I blame Kiffin for the Oregon State loss personally. That was a horribly called game.
Mike Riley just flat outcoached him.
As far as our losses and blaming Kiffin goes, we really shouldn't have lost either the ND or UW games. Poor execution was the reason that we lost, and poor tackling.
I blame Kiffin for the Oregon State loss personally. That was a horribly called game.
Mike Riley just flat outcoached him.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 2:02 pm to bamaatlsu
Besides the previously mentioned transfers, the sanctions also affected SC this year via opposing coaches using it to lure recruits away from sc; by facing to red shirt more players than usual in anticipation of a depleted roster in the years to come and thus having fewer bodies to rotate into games this year; and by the mental aspect of realizing toward the end of the year that you (players) really didn't have a thing to play for besides pride.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 2:10 pm to GeauxTigersLee
USC is expected to sign around 30 this year. They have quite a few empty slots from last year, so they are going to stock up on the early enrollees.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 2:11 pm to GeauxTigersLee
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They have 19 commitments listed, so not all of them will be signed this year.
So why are they commited if they wont be signed? At least get your facts straightPosted on 12/15/10 at 2:28 pm to RLDSC FAN
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So why are they commited if they wont be signed? At least get your facts straight
You can't be serious? I didn't realise that USC might have more than 15 scholarships this year but that is not a guarantee.
I guess you didn't know that Ole Miss had 37 commitments in 2009 or that Auburn had 32 last year. Schools can only sign 25 per year per NCAA rules. Sometimes, they can enroll early to count against the previous class if that class was under 25, but many end up in Juco or "greyshirts" for next year.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 2:53 pm to GeauxTigersLee
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USC had 2 junior linemen declare for the NFL draft today and they can only sign 15 scholarships in Feb instead of the normal 25.
They can also get academic scholarships and stuff like that
This post was edited on 12/15/10 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 12/15/10 at 2:55 pm to Noplacelikehome
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They can also get academic scholarships and stuff like that
Incorrect. Not for a primary sport.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 2:56 pm to VABuckeye
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Incorrect. Not for a primary sport.
What is considered primary?
And if not whole academic scholarships they can give half to one player and half to another then the academic scholarship can pay the rest
i think
This post was edited on 12/15/10 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 12/15/10 at 3:00 pm to Noplacelikehome
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What is considered primary?
Football, basketball and I think baseball. For instance you can give a player a track scholarship (LaTwan Anderson at Miami who has since left) and he can practice with the football team. However, once he plays the scholarship must become a football scholarship. If USC wants to up their roster past the 15/75 limits they're going to have to get walk-ons.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 3:10 pm to GeauxTigersLee
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You can't be serious? I didn't realise that USC might have more than 15 scholarships this year but that is not a guarantee.
Actually yes I am. You're trying to act as if you know whats gonna happen, you dont. USC will sign more than 15 players this year and thats a fact
Posted on 12/15/10 at 3:11 pm to Noplacelikehome
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And if not whole academic scholarships they can give half to one player and half to another then the academic scholarship can pay the rest
You can't give partial scholarships in football or basketball. In baseball, all scholarships are partial (each school gets 11.78 scholarships to divide - yes, that's correct
) - even though the coach can elect to give 100% to one guy it's never done. So, you can get an academic scholarship in baseball. If you're a dual sport athlete (football and another sport), your scholarship must be a full football scholarship.
This post was edited on 12/15/10 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 12/15/10 at 4:11 pm to GeauxTigersLee
You are right... I was thinking of baseball.
Posted on 12/15/10 at 4:14 pm to GeauxTigersLee
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You can't give partial scholarships in football or basketball. In baseball, all scholarships are partial (each school gets 11.78 scholarships to divide - yes, that's correct ) - even though the coach can elect to give 100% to one guy it's never done. So, you can get an academic scholarship in baseball.
If you're a dual sport athlete (football and another sport), your scholarship must be a full football scholarship.
This rule was specifically put into place so that some schools who don't care about anything but football *cough Alabama cough* wouldn't load up their other sports' rosters with extra football players.
Posted on 12/16/10 at 6:40 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
STory on McNair's appeal
LINK
One snippet:
Entire rebuttal document. Interesting and compelling. Of ocurse it is his side.
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LINK
One snippet:
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The Committee also apparently clings to conclusions based on contradictory findings against McNair despite having had those pointed out to it.
It still finds that McNair called Lake on Oct. 29, the night Bush was hosting top recruit Percy Harvin, because "McNair knew Lake and knew Lake was with xxxx that night." But then it also finds that McNair's friend, actor Faison Love, "introduced Lake to McNair later that night."
Both findings clearly cannot be true. McNair's rebuttal questions how the Infractions Committee could denounce his credibility "based on inconsistent and contradictory findings."
Entire rebuttal document. Interesting and compelling. Of ocurse it is his side.
LINK
This post was edited on 12/16/10 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 12/16/10 at 6:42 pm to GeauxTigersLee
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I didn't realise that USC might have more than 15 scholarships this year but that is not a guarantee.
they have 20 commits and many more to come. Many will be early enrollees, which won't count against the 25 (in the case they sign more than 25). APpeal unlikely to be ruled on by signing day so they can sign away
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