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The numbers that backup claim of DEFENSE wins CHAMPIONSHIPS
Posted on 10/21/10 at 11:16 am
Posted on 10/21/10 at 11:16 am
In the last decade, no BCS Champion has fielded a defense that ranked lower than 23rd in the category of Total Defense. In the category of scoring defense, the lowest ranking has been 17th.
2009
Alabama- 2nd in Total Defense, 2nd in Scoring Defense
2008
Florida- 9th in Total Defense, 4th in Scoring Defense
2007
LSU- 3rd in Total Defense, 17th in Scoring Defense
2006
Florida- 6th in Total Defense, 8th in Scoring Defense
2005
Texas- 10th in Total Defense, 8th in Scoring Defense
2004
USC- 6th in Total Defense, 3rd in Scoring Defense
2003
LSU- 1st in Total Defense, 1st in Scoring Defense
2002
Ohio State- 23rd in Total Defense, 2nd in Scoring Defense
2001
Miami- 6th in Total Defense, 1st in Scoring Defense
2000
Oklahoma- 8th in Total Defense, 7th in Scoring Defense
The last ten BCS Champions have an averaged ranking of 7.4 nationally in Total Defense and 5.3 in Scoring Defense.
2009
Alabama- 2nd in Total Defense, 2nd in Scoring Defense
2008
Florida- 9th in Total Defense, 4th in Scoring Defense
2007
LSU- 3rd in Total Defense, 17th in Scoring Defense
2006
Florida- 6th in Total Defense, 8th in Scoring Defense
2005
Texas- 10th in Total Defense, 8th in Scoring Defense
2004
USC- 6th in Total Defense, 3rd in Scoring Defense
2003
LSU- 1st in Total Defense, 1st in Scoring Defense
2002
Ohio State- 23rd in Total Defense, 2nd in Scoring Defense
2001
Miami- 6th in Total Defense, 1st in Scoring Defense
2000
Oklahoma- 8th in Total Defense, 7th in Scoring Defense
The last ten BCS Champions have an averaged ranking of 7.4 nationally in Total Defense and 5.3 in Scoring Defense.
This post was edited on 10/21/10 at 11:33 am
Posted on 10/21/10 at 11:18 am to Stromile Swift
LSU has the two highest scoring defenses in that list. Interesting.
ETA: not any more
ETA: not any more
This post was edited on 10/21/10 at 11:34 am
Posted on 10/21/10 at 11:19 am to fitz1190
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LSU has the two highest scoring defenses in that list. Interesting.
bama last year is #1
Posted on 10/21/10 at 11:19 am to Stromile Swift
Now i agree with you 100%, but pull their offensive numbers to for the sake of the argument
Posted on 10/21/10 at 11:19 am to Stromile Swift
I really hope defense beats Auburn on Oct. 23rd., at the very least.
Posted on 10/21/10 at 11:20 am to Stromile Swift
Now, how do those rankings compare to offensive rankings of said teams? Were the offenses in top 15 too or did the defenses carry it completely?
Will be interesting to see the trends.
Will be interesting to see the trends.
Posted on 10/21/10 at 11:22 am to Stromile Swift
Ummm.. i posted this two days ago, and LSU was #1 in both scoring and total defense in 2003.
Posted on 10/21/10 at 11:29 am to LSUMafia
quote:
Ummm.. i posted this two days ago, and LSU was #1 in both scoring and total defense in 2003.
My apologies, it's almost impossible to keep up with the various topics on the Rant these days. Also, you are correct, not sure why I jotted down those numbers. Thanks.
Posted on 10/21/10 at 11:29 am to Stromile Swift
You found 2002 stats for LSU's 2003 defense. LSU was 1/1 in 2003.
Posted on 10/21/10 at 11:31 am to The Boat
quote:
You found 2002 stats for LSU's 2003 defense. LSU was 1/1 in 2003.
Ahh, that makes sense.
Posted on 10/21/10 at 11:35 am to 7thWardTiger
quote:
Now i agree with you 100%, but pull their offensive numbers to for the sake of the argument
Agreed, I'd like to see the correlation as well.
Posted on 10/21/10 at 11:44 am to Stromile Swift
No problem Stromile. Here's the link to that thread if you wanna check your numbers. Also, someone posted a link on the offensive stuff in there.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 10/21/10 at 11:47 am to LSUMafia
Sweet, I'll check it out. I was bored last night and wanted to study the trend.
Posted on 10/21/10 at 11:50 am to Stromile Swift
Offense
2009 Bama - 42 in total and 22 scoring
2008 FLa - 15 in total and 3 scoring
2007 LSU - 26 in total and 11 scoring
2006 Fla - 19 in total and 23 scoring
2005 Texas - 3 in total and 1 scoring
2004 USC - 12 in total and 6 scoring
2003 LSU - 31 in total and 19 scoring
2002 OSU - 70 in total and 41 scoring
2001 Miami - 8 in total and 3 scoring
2000 Okla - 18 in total and 7 scoring
2009 Bama - 42 in total and 22 scoring
2008 FLa - 15 in total and 3 scoring
2007 LSU - 26 in total and 11 scoring
2006 Fla - 19 in total and 23 scoring
2005 Texas - 3 in total and 1 scoring
2004 USC - 12 in total and 6 scoring
2003 LSU - 31 in total and 19 scoring
2002 OSU - 70 in total and 41 scoring
2001 Miami - 8 in total and 3 scoring
2000 Okla - 18 in total and 7 scoring
Posted on 10/21/10 at 12:13 pm to eye4lsu
quote:
2002 OSU - 70 in total and 41 scoring
So you're saying there's a chance!
Posted on 10/21/10 at 12:18 pm to JermStone
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So you're saying there's a chance!
I was thinking the same thing as I was typing it.
Posted on 10/21/10 at 12:23 pm to eye4lsu
quote:
2009 Bama - 42 in total and 22 scoring
2008 FLa - 15 in total and 3 scoring
2007 LSU - 26 in total and 11 scoring
2006 Fla - 19 in total and 23 scoring
2005 Texas - 3 in total and 1 scoring
2004 USC - 12 in total and 6 scoring
2003 LSU - 31 in total and 19 scoring
2002 OSU - 70 in total and 41 scoring
2001 Miami - 8 in total and 3 scoring
2000 Okla - 18 in total and 7 scoring
I didn't run a statistical analysis but just eyeballing it, it would certainly support the commonly-held view that Defense Wins Championships.Thanks for sharing the numbers.
Posted on 10/21/10 at 12:24 pm to Stromile Swift
Eliminate the anamoly on each side and the avg is well within the top 10.
It takes a top 10 D to win it all, even the anamolies are balanced by the total/scoring rank.
How does the BCS top 10 rank defensively ?
It takes a top 10 D to win it all, even the anamolies are balanced by the total/scoring rank.
How does the BCS top 10 rank defensively ?
Posted on 10/21/10 at 12:26 pm to TheLoupGarou
quote:
I didn't run a statistical analysis but just eyeballing it, it would certainly support the commonly-held view that Defense Wins Championships.Thanks for sharing the numbers.
When relying on a strong D to win games, its absolutely CRITICAL the offense doesnt make mistakes becuase it may not be able to come from behind to recover for them.
Thats why we almost lost a few games, and this is probably why Miles doesnt want to throw the ball much.
Posted on 10/21/10 at 1:03 pm to BobBoucher
Turnover Margin
2009 Bama - 4th (+1.36)
2008 Fla - 2nd (+1.57)
2007 LSU - 2nd (+1.43)
2006 Fla - 37th (+.36)
2005 Texas - 27th (+.54)
2004 USC - 1st (+1.46)
2003 LSU - 39th (+.36)
2002 OSU - 18th (+.93)
2001 Miami - 1st (+2.36)
2000 Okla - 30th (+.50)
And in case you are wondering..2010 LSU is 73rd at -.29
2009 Bama - 4th (+1.36)
2008 Fla - 2nd (+1.57)
2007 LSU - 2nd (+1.43)
2006 Fla - 37th (+.36)
2005 Texas - 27th (+.54)
2004 USC - 1st (+1.46)
2003 LSU - 39th (+.36)
2002 OSU - 18th (+.93)
2001 Miami - 1st (+2.36)
2000 Okla - 30th (+.50)
And in case you are wondering..2010 LSU is 73rd at -.29
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