- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Crowton's Playcalling...
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:05 am
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:05 am
Crowton's playcalling has been very good this year. Ranters that keep ranting about his horrid gameplan are either not paying close attention or dont know much about football. Poor execution and mental mistakes killed almost every unsuccessful drive of the last two games.
The first drive of the UNC game ended on a wide-open Shepard dropping a pass. Every other drive that failed was due to penalties and turnovers.
The Vandy game showed me that Jefferson is not going through his progressions well...still. His passes are very often too low. Passes were dropped and penalties at really bad times killed drives. I really dont know how Crowton, specifically, can fix that.
I do question the use of the option when rolling out. But Blue's fumbles is not a thing that can be forseen. The read option hasn't been a bad play for LSU this year, though.
Shotgun vs I-form comments:
Some of you are questioning the shotgun but we really dont have a consistent fullback presence. The I-form looked good at the end of the game because Vandy was worn down. LSU cannot rely heavily on the I-form this year.
Truth is that no specific formation or playcalling is going to work very well if the QB can't get through progressions and the players are making constant mental errors. I believe that the plays look great. I saw open receivers all night. Jefferson never even looked in their general direction. He was also off-target.....a lot. Again, dont know what Crowton could do when these things happen....other than just run the rock....which happened quite a bit tonight.
The first drive of the UNC game ended on a wide-open Shepard dropping a pass. Every other drive that failed was due to penalties and turnovers.
The Vandy game showed me that Jefferson is not going through his progressions well...still. His passes are very often too low. Passes were dropped and penalties at really bad times killed drives. I really dont know how Crowton, specifically, can fix that.
I do question the use of the option when rolling out. But Blue's fumbles is not a thing that can be forseen. The read option hasn't been a bad play for LSU this year, though.
Shotgun vs I-form comments:
Some of you are questioning the shotgun but we really dont have a consistent fullback presence. The I-form looked good at the end of the game because Vandy was worn down. LSU cannot rely heavily on the I-form this year.
Truth is that no specific formation or playcalling is going to work very well if the QB can't get through progressions and the players are making constant mental errors. I believe that the plays look great. I saw open receivers all night. Jefferson never even looked in their general direction. He was also off-target.....a lot. Again, dont know what Crowton could do when these things happen....other than just run the rock....which happened quite a bit tonight.
9
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:05 am to Ebbandflow
quote:
Crowton's playcalling has been very good this year
he only called the unc game...
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:11 am to Ebbandflow
I'm almost certain Mr. Miles took the reigns over after that redzone int.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:15 am to Ebbandflow
Running JJ 11 times for 11 yards is not good playcalling. You are already thin at that position. They insist upon asking JJ to run when he is not good at it or comfortable with it. They also are taking away touches from very capable players. If the QB running is so valuable to LSU why are we not recruiting any mobile QBs. Everybody besides JJ here or being recruited is a pure pocket passer.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:16 am to jdrumdog
quote:
I'm almost certain Mr. Miles took the reigns over after that redzone int.
This.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:16 am to Ebbandflow
quote:
Every other drive that failed was due to penalties and turnovers.
this is true
quote:
Passes were dropped and penalties at really bad times killed drives. I really dont know how Crowton, specifically, can fix that.
We only had 3 penalties vs Vandy. Poor excuse for Crowton. And most of the passes were dropped because JJ was off tonight with his accuracy. If your QB is off, and the running game is good, then stop throwing it. See 2009 La Tech game
quote:
The read option hasn't been a bad play for LSU this year, though.
Except for the fact that it doesn't get us anything more than 2 yards 70% of the time. Read option doesn't allow a RB to have any momentum when he gets the ball, which is what a power back like Ridley/Blue need.
quote:
Shotgun vs I-form comments:
Some of you are questioning the shotgun but we really dont have a consistent fullback presence. The I-form looked good at the end of the game because Vandy was worn down. LSU cannot rely heavily on the I-form this year.
Singleback and I-formation are the fundemental formations in football. So far, LSU has executed them well compared to shotgun runs (with the exception of handoffs to Shep). LSU should rely on them until other teams stop them.
quote:
Truth is that no specific formation or playcalling is going to work very well if the QB can't get through progressions and the players are making constant mental errors.
Another poor excuse for Crowton. He is the QB coach as well you know. Both Lee and JJ would be great QBs if they had a good QB coach. In 2008, the defense made a lot of mental errors. I guess that wasn't Malleveto's fault though.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:22 am to sunnydaze
quote:
he only called the unc game...
Do you know this for fact?? Not arguing but just curious why you seem so sure of this. Also, Crowton called a solid game against UNC. Key penalties and turnovers lessened opportunities for points and sustained drives. Not to mention the return game affected overall offensive yard numbers, as in the offense was eith not getting the ball or was getting a short field. Not sure why Miles would take over.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:23 am to Ebbandflow
quote:
Crowton's playcalling has been very good this year.
This is where I stopped reading.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:23 am to peopleschamp
i agree JJ sux at running the option or at all. They have great options at every other skill position on the field...don't get the backup...er starting QB hurt by running him more than the other options..speaking of options..get rid of that crappy concept...this offense has no identity. It's time for Miles to get that OL to win the battles. Run the Pro. Most of the tailbacks we got could blow up holes..give em a chance....hell if there is a position weakness it QB not RB
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:24 am to jdrumdog
quote:
I'm almost certain Mr. Miles took the reigns over after that redzone int.
"Almost" and "certain" should not be in the same sentence. Every time the camera showed Miles he was looking everywhere but the field. Do you honestly believe he was calling the plays? You can usually tell when a coach is calling the plays....dunno, just not seeing what you're talking about
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:25 am to Ebbandflow
Crowton isn't going to last the season UNLESS he changes his entire philosophy and get the ball to our playmakers and stops allowing JJ to be our primary playmaker.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:25 am to Ebbandflow
You dont know whos calling what play, none of us do.
With the exception of HB dive and option to the short side.
Les goes down if Crowton goes down...
With the exception of HB dive and option to the short side.
quote:
Crowton isn't going to last the season UNLESS he changes his entire philosophy and get the ball to our playmakers and stops allowing JJ to be our primary playmaker.
Les goes down if Crowton goes down...
This post was edited on 9/12/10 at 1:28 am
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:26 am to Ebbandflow
dude it was confirmed that les called the plays today after about the 3rd series...its not a coincedence that he was shown with play sheets after the 3rd 3 and out either, had it until the game was over
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:27 am to Ebbandflow
Crowton sucks!
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:28 am to Ebbandflow
quote:
Crowton's playcalling has been very good this year.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:28 am to Ebbandflow
quote:
You can usually tell when a coach is calling the plays....dunno,
Really now? I have my ways of possibly almost certainly knowing, how do YOU tell if the coach is calling the plays?
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:28 am to sunnydaze
I agree that its clear Les takes over the offense when we have a lead, I dont need confirmation from Herm up in the booth.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:29 am to sunnydaze
Thank God for Les then because Crowton needs to be shown the door and should have been last year.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:29 am to sunnydaze
quote:
its not a coincedence that he was shown with play sheets after the 3rd 3 and out either, had it until the game was over
well dammit stole my thunder.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 1:30 am to WelcomeToDeathValley
quote:
I agree that its clear Les takes over the offense when we have a lead
Or, in this case, a turnover.
Page 1 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News