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Rule question on Ridley's first fumble

Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:39 am
Posted by tigercavor
Member since Sep 2006
1816 posts
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:39 am
Sorry if this has already been discussed.

On the first drive of the second half, LSU faced a 3 and 1 and gave it to Ridley. He pick up the first down, the chains were moved and LSU huddled and lined up for the next play. The replay official stopped play to review the previous play. He overturned the ruling on the field and gave UNC the ball.

My question is that if the runner is ruled down by the officials, can the replay official over turn that ruling? I know in the NFL, they CAN review if the recovery was clear, but the ball cannot be advanced. I have not seen this in NCAA. The reasoning is that they do not want everyone scrambling for every ball after the whistle.

Thanks
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:43 am to
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My question is that if the runner is ruled down by the officials, can the replay official over turn that ruling? I know in the NFL, they CAN review if the recovery was clear, but the ball cannot be advanced. I have not seen this in NCAA. The reasoning is that they do not want everyone scrambling for every ball after the whistle.
A whistle kills the play anyway.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26615 posts
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:44 am to
If it's determined by replay that the whistle blew before the fumble, then the play will stand.

That was not the case Saturday. It was a fumble. The whistle didn't blow until he hit the ground. The ground level camera angle from Ridley's front left is the only one that shows the ball clearly coming out. They got that one correct.
Posted by tigercavor
Member since Sep 2006
1816 posts
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:45 am to
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A whistle kills the play anyway.



That is what I thought.

So then it should not be reviewable
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26615 posts
Posted on 9/8/10 at 11:59 am to
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So then it should not be reviewable


If the officials on the field say the whistle blew before the ball came out, then it's a moot point. The ruling on the field though, was not that the whistle had blown, but that the ground had caused the fumble. The whistle came after.

Apparently, none of the officials were in position to see it come out because he was somewhat in a crowd at that point. I have no problem at all with what happened. It was a fumble.
Posted by donut
Face, USA
Member since Jan 2004
3003 posts
Posted on 9/8/10 at 12:16 pm to
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The ground level camera angle from Ridley's front left is the only one that shows the ball clearly coming out. They got that one correct.
yes but the replay didn't show who recovered the ball. I was wondering this myself. They determined it was a fumble, but nothing showed who recoverd it. So why give it to UNC?
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