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Jermaine Gresham
Posted on 3/24/10 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 3/24/10 at 2:04 pm
The guys on NFL Network said that if Gresham fell to #32 the Saints would take him. Wtf would we do with both Shockey and Gresham and Thomas while we have holes on defense? Do these guys know anything about NFL teams at all?
This post was edited on 3/24/10 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 3/24/10 at 2:07 pm to TIGERSofCHAOS
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The guys on NFL Network said that if Gresham fell to #32 the Saints would take him.
I agree with them. We'd be stupid if we didn't.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 2:09 pm to TIGERSofCHAOS
To be quite honest, they probably know more than you do. Not trying to be a dick.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 2:10 pm to TigerTool461
that guy has some knee issues
Posted on 3/24/10 at 2:11 pm to Chad504boy
It would be a miracle if shocky stayed healthy for a whole season.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 2:13 pm to TigerTool461
You're right. That's why I don't work analyzing the NFL on television. What I'm trying to say, is that would you sacrifice upgrading the defense which is obviously a need to adding another weapon to an offensive system that is absolutely fine as is?
Posted on 3/24/10 at 2:13 pm to TigerTool461
He probably doesn't fall that far, but look at Shockey's injury history, Payton's willingness to throw any type of formation out there, and that Gresham would most likely be the most talented player left on the board by far.
Doesn't seem like a shock to me that the Saints would take him, despite having needs at other positions.
Doesn't seem like a shock to me that the Saints would take him, despite having needs at other positions.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 2:19 pm to TIGERSofCHAOS
If he is the best player available take him.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 2:22 pm to tiger73
We had the #1 offense with Shockey beat up for much of the year and Dave Thomas (who is coming back). You've really got diminishing returns on that side of the ball. Even if he is clearly the best player available, they need to work on the front 7 or FS is Sharper leaves and they want Jenkins to stay at CB.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 2:24 pm to THRILLHO
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We had the #1 offense with Shockey beat up for much of the year and Dave Thomas (who is coming back). You've really got diminishing returns on that side of the ball. Even if he is clearly the best player available, they need to work on the front 7 or FS is Sharper leaves and they want Jenkins to stay at CB.
You've got an unreliable TE who wants a long term deal and a dave thomas who is a great rotating TE. We utilize the TE position very much and if a TE is BPA...
Posted on 3/24/10 at 2:46 pm to Chad504boy
that why we have dinkins and billy miller...
i seriously doubt we go tight end at the end of the first even if he is available..
i seriously doubt we go tight end at the end of the first even if he is available..
Posted on 3/24/10 at 2:50 pm to ECOTIGER
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that why we have dinkins and billy miller
One isn't that good and the other is about to retire or not be with the team next season.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 3:15 pm to THRILLHO
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We had the #1 offense with Shockey beat up for much of the year and Dave Thomas (who is coming back)
The offense operates on a different level when Shockey is in their healthy, and Thomas is a role player. Glad to have him on the team, but nothing more.
Gresham would be a long term investment at an unstable position on the side of the ball that the HC is more concerned with.
If the choice was Gresham and one of the premier DE's like Morgan or Paul, then those 2 guys get the nod over Gresham. If it's Weatherspoon or Gresham I'd go Spooner.
If it's Carlos Dunlap or Gresham that gives me pause.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 3:16 pm to Sophandros
Probably can't argue, how much longer can Shockey stay healthy? Gresham has the chance to be an All-Pro TE in the league for years to come, but I suspect someone like Baltimore would probably take him
Posted on 3/24/10 at 11:27 pm to TIGERSofCHAOS
I think they are wrong.
It's possible they might want him b/c shockey is injury prone, but gresham has has 2 major knee surgeries himself, he is coming off of one of them, and he has trouble blocking and has been criticized for not "bringing the intensity" and he supposedly "shys away from blocking." However, despite these criticisms, i also think he could work well in our offense in the vertical passing game. I just think his injuries combined with our defensive needs make this a highly improbable pick.
It's possible they might want him b/c shockey is injury prone, but gresham has has 2 major knee surgeries himself, he is coming off of one of them, and he has trouble blocking and has been criticized for not "bringing the intensity" and he supposedly "shys away from blocking." However, despite these criticisms, i also think he could work well in our offense in the vertical passing game. I just think his injuries combined with our defensive needs make this a highly improbable pick.
Posted on 3/24/10 at 11:47 pm to berryNation
It's not purely BPA. If Gresham is your #20 ranked player and Griffen is #22 and both are available I'd say the need might push the difference. If it was #20 Gresham and say McCourty, a CB as your #27 then Gresham sure.
Ya gotta look down the board too if you have TE ranked that high in need. Gronkowski or Hernandez could be available at #64. I could see Hernandez as a Dallas Clark clone in Payton's schemes. At #95 or maybe even #130 I like Jimmy Graham as a project with a good risk/reward ratio.
Ya gotta look down the board too if you have TE ranked that high in need. Gronkowski or Hernandez could be available at #64. I could see Hernandez as a Dallas Clark clone in Payton's schemes. At #95 or maybe even #130 I like Jimmy Graham as a project with a good risk/reward ratio.
Posted on 3/25/10 at 12:07 am to berryNation
We lost all three games when Shockey was out. We especially missed his blocking & playmaking ability against the Cowboys. Gresham would provide insurance for Shockey's next injury, but this would still be a luxury pick.
Saints would have an excellent opportunity to trade down.
Gresham is a major TE talent and some team like Cincy, Baltimore, Atlanta, or New England might fight for the chance to jump back in the first round and grab a guy before some other schmuck does in the 2nd round.
(New England for example has 3 picks in the 2nd round: #12, #16, and #21)
I wouldn't mind dropping down and grabbing, say, a couple of 2nd rd picks to go with our #64 pick.
Saints would have an excellent opportunity to trade down.
Gresham is a major TE talent and some team like Cincy, Baltimore, Atlanta, or New England might fight for the chance to jump back in the first round and grab a guy before some other schmuck does in the 2nd round.
(New England for example has 3 picks in the 2nd round: #12, #16, and #21)
I wouldn't mind dropping down and grabbing, say, a couple of 2nd rd picks to go with our #64 pick.
Posted on 3/25/10 at 12:23 am to LSUFreek
The 32nd pick would be too hard to try and pick up 2 2nd rounders, unless we got NE's bottom 2 for our 1st and 3rd
Posted on 3/25/10 at 12:28 am to LSUFreek
gresham is one of the better tight end prospects in quite some time.
if he is there i'm sure the saints would look at him. shockey is nearing his 9th or 10th season.. i really don't know the length of tight ends in the nfl, but gresham could definitely be his heir apparent.
if he is there i'm sure the saints would look at him. shockey is nearing his 9th or 10th season.. i really don't know the length of tight ends in the nfl, but gresham could definitely be his heir apparent.
Posted on 3/25/10 at 4:59 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
I highly doubt it, even though he's a beast and has some injury concerns, someone will take him in the 1st rd. The smart move is to fill defensive needs in the 1st and 2nd rds, then if you're looking for a TE prospect, draft Dennis Pitta or Jimmy Grahm in the middle rounds.
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