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How many double plays will Nola and Hanover turn this year?

Posted on 2/9/10 at 9:37 am
Posted by cjgulina
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 9:37 am
This will be a huge strength of our team this year, and they could provide a very stout defense for us. I'm looking forward to seeing Hanover at 2nd, I expect him to be much better than at 3rd.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 9:40 am to
46.
Posted by aroussel3Tigers
Member since Mar 2009
4905 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 9:43 am to
a bunch!!!!
Posted by foldudummy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 2/9/10 at 9:55 am to
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Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 9:59 am to
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How many double plays will Nola


Is this the same Nola who was labeled a team liability cause of his hitting last season?

40

Posted by cjgulina
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2005
1822 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 10:38 am to
Yep thats the same Nola. Seriously though, he hit much better late in the season. I think he can get upwards of .300 this season at the plate.
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
11651 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 10:44 am to
40ish


Cant wait to see how maney people start blasting CPM because we "haven't swept anyone" yet or we arent blowing them out of the water.
This post was edited on 2/9/10 at 10:44 am
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 10:55 am to
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Seriously though, he hit much better late in the season.


He had some clutch hits and that's often more important than the average. imo

It was his glove that helped stabilize the team/infield and played a nice role in our run. His timely hitting was a plus, but the glove was the key. imo



Posted by cjgulina
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2005
1822 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 10:56 am to
No you're absolutely correct. His glove was HUGE in our run last year, but as the season went on he became less of a liability at the plate.
Posted by Cookieman
Texas
Member since Nov 2009
782 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 11:10 am to
quote:

No you're absolutely correct. His glove was HUGE in our run last year, but as the season went on he became less of a liability at the plate.


I think it was his arm and not so much his glove. DJ could get to and field pretty much anything Nola could...but he couldnt get rid of the ball quick enough and not enough zip on it also.

Were there really that many double plays made because Nola was at SS and DJ at 2nd as opposed to DJ at SS and Schimpf at 2nd? Or was there just a lack of DP balls hit during the first part of the season?
Posted by cjgulina
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2005
1822 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 11:23 am to
There was an immediate increase in the number of double plays as soon as Nola was inserted at SS. I can't remember the exact numbers but we didnt have hardly any before Nola was put in there. Then we started having them all the time.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Were there really that many double plays made because Nola was at SS and DJ at 2nd as opposed to DJ at SS and Schimpf at 2nd? Or was there just a lack of DP balls hit during the first part of the season?

A little of both. Implicit in the praise of Nola is that DJ was a terrible defender, which wasn't true. DJ actually had similar range to Nola, the only difference was in double plays, which speaks to chances and, well, the 2B making the turn.

Nola was grossly overrated last season, but he has a good approach at the plate and will likely blossom into a really good hitter this season. If he posts a, say, 270/350/400 line while supplying top notch defense, he could be All-SEC. That's not outside the realm of possibility. He was just overwhelmed at times at the plate as a freshman, which probably won't happen this season. He'll never hit like DJ or Schimpf, but he doesn't have to.
Posted by Cookieman
Texas
Member since Nov 2009
782 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 11:34 am to
quote:

There was an immediate increase in the number of double plays as soon as Nola was inserted at SS. I can't remember the exact numbers but we didnt have hardly any before Nola was put in there. Then we started having them all the time.


I realize that...but i just dont remember saying to myself very many times..."Hey..that should have been a DP...what the hell?" Was is because before the change, DJ just couldnt turn it with his weaker arm?...in that case after the move, were all of the DPs the 4-6-3 variety? Im not discounting the change at SS, I just dont think in the overall scheme of things, the switch from offense to defense made a significant difference in the overall play of the team. It may have...but i think it's more coincidence than anything else. DJ was a very very good SS. How many DPs did we turn when he was a freshman starting at SS?

Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Nola was grossly overrated last season


Perhaps with you, but I'll rate a 1.000 fielding percentage in the College World Series in 24 chances and .250 average as pretty dang good.

Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 12:31 pm to
quote:


Nola was grossly overrated last season
Perhaps with you, but I'll rate a 1.000 fielding percentage in the College World Series in 24 chances and .250 average as pretty dang good.

Amen. BTW I say he'll hit 40 to 50 points higher this season.
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 12:35 pm to
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Perhaps with you, but I'll rate a 1.000 fielding percentage in the College World Series in 24 chances and .250 average as pretty dang good.

See, this is what I mean. Those aren't terribly good numbers. They don't stink, but they aren't that good either. A shortstop recording 4 outs per game is nothing to write home about. And hitting 250 is below average in the high run environment of college. He was a solid contributor, and his hitting did progressively improve throughout the year (especially in the postseason), but he was hardly one of our top contributors. Also, small sample and all that (anything can happen in 6 games, really).

I do think that will change this year. Nola should be a much improved hitter and his defense is really good. Even without improvement, he's a positive contributor there.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 2/9/10 at 12:54 pm to
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They don't stink, but they aren't that good either.


I'll take error free play at one of the toughest, most vital, positions there is in the most pressure packed event, CWS, there is any time I can get it and say thank you very much.

I'm not saying he's the greatest SS in the world, just that your overrated statement was over the hill and not needed, but each to our own.

Hopefully, he will continue his improvement and we are set at SS for a couple yrs.

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