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NCAA needs to get clock situation straight
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:08 pm
Does the clock stop when the official waves for timeout or when it is called for? Same with first downs, is it when the knee is down or when the official signals for it? This rule is is desperate need of constancy. Different interpretations were used in several big games this year.
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Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:11 pm to nhsj012
You are correct. My understanding has always been that the ref has to signal the timeout.
I don't agree with giving Va Tech two seconds there.
I don't agree with giving Va Tech two seconds there.
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:13 pm to nhsj012
Its straight, Big 12 refs got it right, Conf USA refs got it right.
SEC refs = failure
SEC refs = failure
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:15 pm to Rex
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My understanding has always been that the ref has to signal the timeout.
The ball is dead by rule. The signal is merely an indicator.
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:18 pm to arrakis
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The ball is dead by rule.
Why wasn't LSU given time at the end of the Ole Miss game?
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:19 pm to arrakis
If VT didn't have a timeout, would they have been given the opportunity to spike the ball or run a play after the refs set the ball ready for play? Cause that would have been bullshite considering there was no way VT would have been able to get up to the line of scrimmage in time during the actual play.
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:21 pm to xenythx
They would set the ball, start the clock with 2 seconds and they have a chance to spike it or run a play if they get it off before the clock expires.
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:23 pm to ItTakesAThief
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They would set the ball, start the clock with 2 seconds and they have a chance to spike it or run a play if they get it off before the clock expires.
That would be bullshite then cause the entire VT team would not have been able to run 60 yards and line up correctly before the refs started the clock if it had occurred during the original play.
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:23 pm to arrakis
quote:yes
The ball is dead by rule. The signal is merely an indicator.
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:24 pm to Rex
quote:refs screwed up.
Why wasn't LSU given time at the end of the Ole Miss game?
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:25 pm to xenythx
The refs with the chains have to run 60 yards and get them set to start the clock right.
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:25 pm to Rex
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Why wasn't LSU given time at the end of the Ole Miss game?
Completely different set of circumstance. There had to be a determination whether a catch was made...which took time.
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:26 pm to Rex
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Why wasn't LSU given time at the end of the Ole Miss game?
The clock was stopped after the catch in the OM game. LSU didn't have a time out to keep it stopped.
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:28 pm to arrakis
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The ball is dead by rule
No that is wrong...
There is no way for the booth to know exactly when, and even if he should stop the clock.
The official signal is when the clock is to be stopped.
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The clock is to be stopped on the officials' signal. Mechanically the covering officials signals incomplete and other officials signal time out to stop the clock. When I instruct clock operators I advise them to stop the clock on the covering officials incomplete pass signal. This stops the clock sooner. However there is a natural lag time from the signal to the timer stopping the clock. Part of the lag time is due to the timer's reaction/reflexes from seeing the signal to pushing the stop button. There is also some lag time [half a second or so] due to technology - or so the operators claim.
Thanks for the question.
Victor Winnek
NCAA Football Official
This post was edited on 12/31/09 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:29 pm to ItTakesAThief
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The refs with the chains have to run 60 yards and get them set to start the clock right.
Not inside the 10 yard line....you don't set the chains.
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:30 pm to TulaneTigerFan
If the play was reviewed and time was set to win the player was down, we would have had 3 seconds.
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:30 pm to KBeezy
buzzkill
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:31 pm to arrakis
OK well the ref with the downmarker that sits on the line of scrimmage would have to run 60 yards.
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:33 pm to KBeezy
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No that is wrong...
Victor should re-read the rule book. I'd love to know what his conference supervisor has to say about his clock mechanics.
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There is no way for the booth to know exactly when, and even if he should stop the clock.
Yes, there is....but not always; as in the case of the LSU/OM game.
Posted on 12/31/09 at 8:34 pm to ItTakesAThief
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OK well the ref with the downmarker that sits on the line of scrimmage would have to run 60 yards
And he'd still get there faster than winded 300+ lb lineman.
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