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To Whom Should I Send My Thanks?

Posted on 10/8/09 at 5:55 pm
Posted by Alley
Smashville
Member since Sep 2005
3235 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 5:55 pm
I have three CC's with three different banks and in the past four weeks here's what happened:

CC #1 - Since 1996 - Four weeks ago started charging interest from date of purchase. Needless to say I'll never use that card again but I'll still keep it of course.
CC #2 - Since 2000 - Today I receive a letter in the mail saying that every January I'll be charged $29 a year to enjoy the use of said card. If I reject the fee they'll cancel my account. Wonderful.
CC #3 - Since 2007 - Nothing yet but expecting a letter or email any day/week now about more wonderful changes.

Again, to whom should I send my thanks for these wonderful events?

By the way, my credit rating is a lenders wet dream and I've never made a late payment on any of my cards.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26579 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 6:23 pm to
GTFO the credit card industry. Usually there is a pretty strong correlation between good credit ratings and not even needing to use a credit card in the first place. If they are trying to price you out and not taking care of you as a good customer, frick them. Just use debit cards. I know there are "rewards" for spending on CC's, but it's probably no longer worth the headache if everyone is trying to frick you with fees.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

To Whom Should I Send My Thanks?
I think the banks have heard about MileHigh's banker slogan on this board: dead banker>>>>>>live banker.

Seriously, with the new restrictions on banks to prevent them from changing terms based on a customer's usage of the card, I think we will see more banks doing what yours did to you.....making even their best customers pay a little more. It falls into the category of the "law of unintended consequences."

FWIW, I received a notice today from one of my CC companies notifying me of some of the same changes you described. What the change notice did NOT include is an annual fee, so I'm good with it....for now.
Posted by Alley
Smashville
Member since Sep 2005
3235 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 7:12 pm to
I use my 2000 CC for on-line purchases and the debit for brick and mortar.

The 2007 was opened as a result of transferring the balance off the 1996 at 0% APR for 18 months - interest free debt sells itself. All of my cards are paid in full each month if/when they are used.

I used to get CC applications in the mail by the dozens but nowadays they're once in a blue moon. This is probably a good thing as landfills are already full enough.
Posted by wizard of smart
Member since Feb 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 7:16 pm to
To build credit, I applied a month ago for a really good credit card. Rejected. I have a good credit score, just not established. Lowered my standards a bit. Applied for a gas card. Thought I was doing them a favor. Nope, rejected.

Credit cards can go to hell.

All I need credit for is a house. Co-signers ftw
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 7:19 pm to
Unfortunately consumer lending is tough all around. I recently applied for a HELOC in my home in which I have over 50% equity. With a credit rating above 775 I thought this would be a slam dunk, but no deal. They wanted me to have 60% equity. I shite you not.

I figure that if card issuers start charging me an annual fee I'll just close the account. Sure, my credit rating will take a slight hit but if I can't get a HELOC with a golden rating then it isn't like it'll have any practical impact.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 7:19 pm to
quote:

To build credit, I applied a month ago for a really good credit card. Rejected. I have a good credit score, just not established. Lowered my standards a bit. Applied for a gas card. Thought I was doing them a favor. Nope, rejected.

That stinks. Gone are the days (at least until memories fade about this last credit crunch) when a pulse is good enough to get a CC. And if congress keeps doing its thing, it will get even more difficult for everyone to get a CC.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 7:51 pm to
quote:

it will get even more difficult for everyone to get a CC.


So you're saying the government will have to start offering CC to everyone in the near future. Seems like the "natural" progression of things...
This post was edited on 10/8/09 at 8:46 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 8:16 pm to
quote:

So your saying the government will have to start offering CC to everyone in the near future.
No, I'm not saying that, but please don't give the feds any ideas! It's getting to the point where they may want to approve every application.
Posted by Alley
Smashville
Member since Sep 2005
3235 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 9:01 pm to
I re-read the statement:

"We are making this change in response to market conditions, new federal laws and regulations, and the increasing costs of providing unsecured credit."

I suppose I have deadbeats and our lawmakers to thank then?

Oh and one more thing, I'll be charged $29 this December 1 for 2009 and again on January 1 for the 2010 fee. Lovely.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 9:04 pm to
quote:

I suppose I have deadbeats and our lawmakers to thank then?

Pretty much. Especially people who walk away from their obligations. We all get punished for their lack of conscience.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61489 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 10:01 pm to
Us responsible folk have been subsidized for years by people who probably shouldn't even have a credit card. The free ride is over.
This post was edited on 10/8/09 at 10:41 pm
Posted by jjbodean1970
Huntington, WV
Member since Mar 2006
6493 posts
Posted on 10/8/09 at 11:33 pm to
which banks are bending you over, if you dont mind my asking?
Posted by Alley
Smashville
Member since Sep 2005
3235 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 12:18 am to
I'll let you take a guess first. All three are from different lenders. A hint for the first card is that it was taken over from my original bank, which is alive and well, by a lending "entity" earlier this year.

The second card might not be charging a fee to all their customers however. Maybe this fee is for the folks who don't normally carry a monthly balance such as myself.

From the statement: "We are making this change due to your recent pattern of payments and transaction history."
Posted by jjbodean1970
Huntington, WV
Member since Mar 2006
6493 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 7:43 am to
citibank? wells fargo?
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Pretty much. Especially people who walk away from their obligations. We all get punished for their lack of conscience.


Ridiculous.
Posted by TheHiddenFlask
The Welsh red light district
Member since Jul 2008
18384 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

I'll let you take a guess first. All three are from different lenders. A hint for the first card is that it was taken over from my original bank, which is alive and well, by a lending "entity" earlier this year.


Hibernia -> Capital One

quote:

The second card might not be charging a fee to all their customers however. Maybe this fee is for the folks who don't normally carry a monthly balance such as myself.


Citi



If I had to guess.
Posted by Alley
Smashville
Member since Sep 2005
3235 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:18 pm to
1996 - My regional bank, then MBNA, finally FIA Card Services
2000 - BoA
2007 - Chase

I never heard of FIA until they took over my card. Their rep seems to be very poor and charging interest from date of purchase doesn't help.

I'm waiting for the next CC hammer to fall: Fixed Rates
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

2007 - Chase


Just a little FYI..

Chase is starting to charge a yearly membership fee as well.. You should see it coming soon. My fiance found out because they charged her credit card for it.. of course they sent the vague letter in the mail with all sorts of legal statements that she just threw away. She went to cancel it but its her oldest card and we are in the middle of getting ready to close on a house so I told her she would be crazy to cancel now.
Posted by MileHigh
Most likely a mile high
Member since Jan 2004
7920 posts
Posted on 10/9/09 at 2:38 pm to
quote:


Ridiculous.

we are probably punished for them walking away, but they walk away b.c they are thinking rationally.

I think in the end its better for CC companies to make the costs of using them more transparent. What they were allowed to do was unconscionable. I am glad they put a stop to it.
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