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general consensus on Matty Ott...
Posted on 5/15/09 at 11:42 am
Posted on 5/15/09 at 11:42 am
Is the general consensus that Ott is going to be a career closer or is there anyone thinking Ott may crack the starting rotation next year?
This post was edited on 5/15/09 at 4:04 pm
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Posted on 5/15/09 at 11:44 am to Tigerfan613
I think he should and will stay where he is
Posted on 5/15/09 at 11:44 am to LSUtoOmaha
Closer
Posted on 5/15/09 at 11:44 am to LSUtoOmaha
No room for Ott in the weekend rotation with Ranaduo, Chad Jones, and Jordan Jefferson.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 11:44 am to Tigerfan613
the first ten rounder 
Posted on 5/15/09 at 11:44 am to Tigerfan613
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Ott may crack the starting rotation next year
I would say yes, but you saw what happened the last time Ott went for more than 2 IP. I think he might be solved by the 4th inning of games and he leaves a lot of breaking stuff up.
That said, he deserves a shot. He's got great stuff and in college baseball - as we have found - the closer's role will never outweight having 2 solid starters. Coleman has shown us that. So, if we have an injury bug next season in the rotation (and that happens often at LSU if you think about it), he is likely to get a shot at a Sunday starting role...possibly even a combo role with a guy like Matulis or Aslup.
This post was edited on 5/15/09 at 11:46 am
Posted on 5/15/09 at 11:46 am to Tigerfan613
i would be midly surprised if he stayed a closer his entire career. not out of the realm of possibility though.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 11:50 am to Tigerfan613
i think by at least his JR he will start
Posted on 5/15/09 at 12:00 pm to Tigerfan613
Ott may make the same type transition to starter as Coleman did...could be a jack of all trades until we realize he's more important as a weekend starter. But it sure is nice to know if you have a lead going into the 8th of a big game...with a rested Ott in the pen..you are very likely to come out with a W.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 12:02 pm to Lester Earl
The closer role in College baseball is way underappreciated. How many times has he come in with 2+ men on and got out of the inning? Now how many other people in our bullpen do you trust to do that? Thats the diofference between a W and an L. I would keep him there.
Not to mention he can go 2innings fora save, but after that I don't know if he has it.
Not to mention he can go 2innings fora save, but after that I don't know if he has it.
This post was edited on 5/15/09 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 5/15/09 at 12:03 pm to PiscesTiger
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the last time Ott went for more than 2 IP
back to back to back jacks...that sucked.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 12:08 pm to SouthOfSouth
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The closer role in College baseball is way underappreciated.
So how do you get to the closer with a lead? A closer cant get you the lead back after the starter puts you in a hole. I still like making my starting rotation as solid as possible and then worry about the pen...both in college and pro. JMHO.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 12:08 pm to SouthOfSouth
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Not to mention he can go 2innings fora save, but after that I don't know if he has it.
IMO, that has more to do with stamina than ability. You can't expect someone who routinely pitches and inning or two to suddenly have enough stamina to go longer. That's like asking a sprinter to run a long distance race without training or practice.
I think he gets a shot at starting next year.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 12:08 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
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The closer role in College baseball is way underappreciated. How many times has he come in with 2+ men on and got out of the inning? Now how many other people in our bullpen do you trust to do that? Thats the diofference between a W and an L. I would keep him there.
This is what separates teams and gets them to Omaha.
I reference my playing days at ULL often but another good example is that the 3 years I was there we could hit the cover off and play defense. We won the SBC and went to a regional in 05 and 07 with outstanding bullpens. In 2006 we had the best starting rotation (statistically speaking) in the country and failed to get to a regional. The reason was that our bullpen was terrible with only 1 reliable guy.
Bullpens separate good teams from great teams.
Always Always Always.
I'd rather make opponents play a 6 or 7 inning game then a 9 inning game.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 12:40 pm to SouthOfSouth
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The closer role in College baseball is way underappreciated
maybe slightly
college baseball is an offensive game. There are more important aspects to a team.
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Now how many other people in our bullpen do you trust to do that?
this year? none
im not calling for him to start this year.
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Not to mention he can go 2innings fora save, but after that I don't know if he has it.
in the offseason when he is groomed to be a starter, then he wont have any problems going 6 or 7 innings. Thats what he did in HS for like 3 years.
If bullpen was almightily important, Coleman wouldnt be starting now and a guy like Bradford wouldnt have started our most important game of hte year last year.
its easy to find guys to plug into the bullpen. If you dont have weekend starters you dont have a need for the bullpen
Posted on 5/15/09 at 12:43 pm to Lester Earl
Yep. LE and I see eye to eye on this one.
I was one of the few who suggested that Coleman be a starter from day one and was jumped on by those who felt he should start the Nova game and go closer from there on out.
Good starting rotation>>>>>> everything else in college baseball.
I was one of the few who suggested that Coleman be a starter from day one and was jumped on by those who felt he should start the Nova game and go closer from there on out.
Good starting rotation>>>>>> everything else in college baseball.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 3:56 pm to PiscesTiger
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I was one of the few who suggested that Coleman be a starter from day one and was jumped on by those who felt he should start the Nova game and go closer from there on out.
Do you think Coleman would have been the closer if Ott had not stepped in to do such a good job? Just wondering because you can't argue with the success both have had this year.
I love watching Ott pitch. He is fearless and comes right after hitters. I worry about his mechanics though. His motion is hard on the arm. His right elbow comes up very high as he begins his motion and when he delivers the ball his elbow is lower than his shoulder. This puts a lot of strain on the elbow.
Posted on 5/15/09 at 4:01 pm to mametoo
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Do you think Coleman would have been the closer if Ott had not stepped in to do such a good job?
No. I think we would have forced ourselves to make Bertccini or Bradshaw into that role or go closer by committee. We had no choice to leave Coleman as the closer. Ott stepping up made the selection easier, I believe, but Coleman was in the rotation one way or another. I am very, very grateful that Ott has surpassed expectations. That said, he's proven himself in one phase of the season. Let's see how he likes a super regional game 3 with 2 on and a one run lead in the 9th.
This post was edited on 5/15/09 at 4:02 pm
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