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explanation of March Madness

Posted on 3/24/09 at 9:52 pm
Posted by Bayou_Bengal@Irving
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 9:52 pm
I stumbled across this blog posting about the NCAA Tournament. I think the strongest part of the article is the point he made in the last paragraph.

Method behind the Madness
Posted by jbirds1
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:11 pm to
A playoff in college football would be ridiculous./thread
The system we have right now is perfect because of its shortcomings.
This post was edited on 3/24/09 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Tyler324
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:13 pm to
Would you say that it was an undisputed fact that George Mason was one of the four best teams in the nation in 2006?
Posted by jbirds1
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:13 pm to
Are you talking to me?
Posted by Tyler324
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:17 pm to
Either one of you.
Posted by Port City
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:18 pm to
Plus 1

EOT
Posted by jbirds1
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:20 pm to
No. Anything can be disputed and they made a run in the tourney. The wouldn't ahve been able to do it again that year.

In the big picture, no. At that time, yes.
This post was edited on 3/24/09 at 10:21 pm
Posted by jbirds1
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:20 pm to
Plus 1 is unnecessary.
Posted by Tyler324
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

In the big picture, no. At that time, yes.


Then you get my point, a playoff is a good idea, but there's a chance for a team to win it that maybe shouldn't be in it.
Posted by jbirds1
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:26 pm to
I don't want that. I like the way it is now. I like hearing people bitch about it all year long.

Have you ever thought about this. NCAA football ahs never been more popular than since the BCS has been put in place. There's a reason for that and that's because people like drama. I'm no exception. I want to think about it all year and debate who really was the best in the middle of summer.

In basketball you can't do that. Once the season is over, it's over.

It's just my two cents, but I love it. It's unique to football. Basketball can have it's March Madness. I like bowl season.
This post was edited on 3/24/09 at 10:28 pm
Posted by Tyler324
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:29 pm to
I just don't like how the regular season means nothing. You could lose every game and then win your final 10 games or whatever, and you're the national champs. That bothers me.
Posted by mlttiger
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

people like drama



Well if you like drama, what about a 64 team football tournament, now that would be a shite load of drama!!!!
Posted by jbirds1
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:30 pm to
So, are you against a playoff. I don't understand your stance.
Posted by jbirds1
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:32 pm to
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Well if you like drama, what about a 64 team football tournament, now that would be a shite load of drama!!!!


Yeah, for a short time period. When it was all said and done, nope.


I don't want a team from the mountain west to have the same chance that a team form the sec does.

Football is a different monster. And imho, it's a resume championship unlike basketball where you can play enough games to more accurately rank teams.
This post was edited on 3/24/09 at 10:33 pm
Posted by mlttiger
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:36 pm to
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I don't want a team from the mountain west to have the same chance that a team form the sec does.


Thats a pretty dumb statement right there considering Utah man handled Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, you telling that team last year didn't deserve a shot? But Ohio State loses in two consecutive national championships should have a better chance than Utah, b/c i guarantee you if Utha was in the Big Ten, or Big East, or even ACC they could have only lost one game or maybe be undefeated and go to the national championship b/c they are in a "BCS conference"

YOU MY FRIEND ARE CRAZY
Posted by jbirds1
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:38 pm to
No. Not crazy. I like the system the way it is. I KNOW it is imperfect. But I like the fallacies.


Trust me, I get where you are coming from. I just prefer it the way it is.


And like I said, Football is a resume sport. You have to look at the whole years work because you can't play as much. No reason to argue that UF, who played in the toughest conference, doesn't deserve the NC. And there's no reason to say taht OU didn't deserve to be there either. Those were THE two best teams throughout the year. Hands down. They deserved it. Their resume was the best. And since football is a resume sport, you bet I think they should be there.

This post was edited on 3/24/09 at 10:42 pm
Posted by mlttiger
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:41 pm to
Yea and I get your point to but i just disagree that kids who DESERVE to have a chance at a national championship b/c they go to Utah and are by far better than any ACC Big East or Big 10 school last year but don't get the opportunity to play in that game b/c of something they can't control. And plus I think the Mountain West was better than at least the Big East last year w/o a question
Posted by sportsinfogeauxlsu
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:42 pm to
my bracket=march sadness
Posted by jbirds1
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:44 pm to
I won't argue with you a bit. However, those deficiencies can be solved by a better formula rather than implementing a plus one.

For instance, I would like to see a conference rank type system where you get more points for wins in certain conferences. The voters will rank the conferences and a win in the, say SEC, is worth more than a win in the Big East. Almost to the point where 1 loss in the Big 12 is not as bad as one loss in the pac 10.

I think that could solve a lot. What do you think?
This post was edited on 3/24/09 at 10:45 pm
Posted by Cornholio
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Posted on 3/24/09 at 10:47 pm to
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Plus 1


Would not solve the problem in college football. Not even close. It would be no better and might be worse. All one needed to do was tune in to this past Rose Bowl to understand why a +1 would be terrible for college football.
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