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Good things in the stimulus

Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:55 am
Posted by GaTiger78
Chickamauga, Ga
Member since Sep 2007
773 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:55 am
I keep hearing about all the junk in this bill, and I'm wondering about what in there will really help things. Close to 800 billion, there must be some things right?

Heard on talk radio couple weeks ago that they could have given working families 14k each with the money in this bill. Don't remember who said it, and he may have been including the interest on the 800 billion. That seems like a better idea to me, but I admit I don't know much about this stuff.
Posted by dawgorama
Member since Jun 2004
14690 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 9:57 am to
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Heard on talk radio couple weeks ago that they could have given working families 14k each with the money in this bill.


Class warfare rhetoric.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
11875 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:01 am to
doesnt approximately 93% of adults looking for work, work or is it only ones that are a little more unsuccessful in garnering wages for their labor that are 'working class' (hint: I hate that freaking title)
Posted by GaTiger78
Chickamauga, Ga
Member since Sep 2007
773 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:04 am to
Actually he said 7k each and 14k for couples I believe. I just said that so people wouldn't divide 800 billion by 300 million and call me an idiot.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:22 am to
The best thing is probably the credit disintermediation being provided by the extension of the TALF. Up to $1.2T in financing for decent assets.
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:23 am to
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Reid said that middle ground creates more jobs than original Senate bill, and spends less than the original House bill.

Collins on Wednesday provided details of some of the measures she expects to be in the final bill:

-- A homeowner tax credit significantly reduced from the Senate version of $15,000.

-- A tax credit, also reduced from the Senate version, for people who buy cars in 2009.

-- Funding to patch the alternative minimum tax, originally intended to target the wealthy but now hitting many middle-class families.

-- $90 billion of increased Medicaid match to states.

-- $150 billion for infrastructure, including $49.6 for transportation infrastructure.

Nelson confirmed that tax breaks for workers that had been set at $1,000 per family or $500 per individual would be scaled back to $800 per family and $400 per individual.

Multiple Democratic sources said 35% of the bill deals with tax cuts, 65% with spending.


I think there are some good things in there. The "homeowner credit" really should say "homebuyer credit", but I think that's a good thing to get some stimulation in the market. I also like the reduction in the per family/person tax break. That didn't work last year and it won't work this year.

CNN Article
This post was edited on 2/12/09 at 10:24 am
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15046 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:42 am to
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The "homeowner credit" really should say "homebuyer credit", but I think that's a good thing to get some stimulation in the market.

Yes, because if there's one lesson we should learn from this mess, it's that the real estate market must be kept artificially inflated at all costs.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:47 am to
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The best thing is probably the credit disintermediation being provided by the extension of the TALF. Up to $1.2T in financing for decent assets.




If they ever actually start the fricker. They announced the first/original part in November. Side note: Do you think your fund will look to utilize it?
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 10:54 am to
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Yes, because if there's one lesson we should learn from this mess, it's that the real estate market must be kept artificially inflated at all costs.


I like it because I'm looking to buy a home.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 2/12/09 at 12:07 pm to
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If they ever actually start the fricker. They announced the first/original part in November.


Set to start in March. Currently, only applies for NEW ISSUE ABS, so there are questions about what kind of gulf is going to widen between new and old vintages.

It's 3 year term financing with reasonable haircuts. It is significant.

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