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Heisman Trophy is a Joke
Posted on 12/13/08 at 9:00 am
Posted on 12/13/08 at 9:00 am
Ever since Charles Woodson won it over Peyton Manning. An absolute joke.
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Posted on 12/13/08 at 9:28 am to putt1058
agreed, for that exact reason, northern bias
Posted on 12/13/08 at 9:29 am to josh336
Saints Board?? 
Posted on 12/13/08 at 9:41 am to SmackDaniels
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Saints Board??
and you responded why?
Posted on 12/13/08 at 9:59 am to putt1058
Maybe he is trying to figure out how this has anything to do with the Saints.
Posted on 12/13/08 at 9:59 am to putt1058
I'm asking what this has to relate to the Saints board? Just wondering if I'm missing something.
Posted on 12/13/08 at 10:07 am to putt1058
quote:
Ever since Charles Woodson won it over Peyton Manning. An absolute joke.
It was a joke before that
Posted on 12/13/08 at 10:08 am to SmackDaniels
just figured it was as good a place as any....just wondering if any other Saints fans agree with the BS that IS the Heisman.
Posted on 12/13/08 at 10:11 am to SmackDaniels
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I'm asking what this has to relate to the Saints board? Just wondering if I'm missing something
It could relate to the fact that Reggie won the Heisman and Reggie is a joke
Posted on 12/13/08 at 10:18 am to fleurdelis
I don't as a player who wants to make it in the NFL would want to win that thing. It has become a curse.
Posted on 12/13/08 at 10:56 am to SmackDaniels
Too many people see it as a measuring stick of NFL success. Look at Danny Weurfel (sp?), Gino Teretta (sp?), Andre Ware, Troy Smith, Jason White....and I don't think Charles Woodson is that good either....never was.
Posted on 12/13/08 at 11:03 am to putt1058
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oo many people see it as a measuring stick of NFL success. Look at
Tony Dorsett, Earl Campbell, Marcus Allen, Barry Sanders, Eddie George, Ricky Williams, Carson Palmer.
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I don't think Charles Woodson is that good either....never was
Charles Woodson won the Heisman because they wanted an alternative to Manning, but he was a fricking bad arse CB and kick returner in college and occasionally played WR. Joke of a Heisman winner because it should have gone to Manning, but he was a great player in his own right and is still a very good DB in the NFL.
Posted on 12/13/08 at 11:08 am to H-Town Tiger
"of late", the trophy is a joke.....
Posted on 12/13/08 at 11:09 am to putt1058
and I don't think Ricky Williams belongs in the group you listed.....head case.
Posted on 12/13/08 at 11:22 am to putt1058
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I don't think Ricky Williams belongs in the group you listed.....head case
Dude has had some great season in the NFL, would have been a HOFer if he wasn't a head case.
Posted on 12/13/08 at 11:27 am to H-Town Tiger
but Dude, he IS a head case....ripped as all heck, but an NFL career with a TON of adversity that he hasn't necessarily overcome.....
Posted on 12/13/08 at 11:27 am to putt1058
quote:
of late", the trophy is a joke.....
people have been saying that its a joke forever.
Posted on 12/13/08 at 11:28 am to H-Town Tiger
Oh no....I don't think it has ALWAYS been that way.....just since the Woodson/Manning thing in my mind.....it was too obvious to me.
Posted on 12/13/08 at 11:33 am to putt1058
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but Dude, he IS a head case....
yes he is, he is also still a good player and has some dominating seasons compared to some Heisman winners that weren't even NFL porspects (White, Crouch, Weinke).
Should be noted Heisman is for college production, not NFL prospects.
Posted on 12/13/08 at 11:38 am to putt1058
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Oh no....I don't think it has ALWAYS been that way.....just since the Woodson/Manning thing in my mind.....it was too obvious to me.
Gino Torreta over Marshall Faulk was worse. Tim Brown won in 87 and several voters said they mailed their ballots in with 3 weeks left\, Brown had a horrible game against Miami the last week, he was anointed as the preseason winner and that was that, they basically started counting total yards, including kick returns to boost Brown's stats.
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