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What is your go-to product for Clethodim?

Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:39 pm
Posted by DocHoliday11
South Georgia
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:39 pm
Looking to spray my clover plot. I know WTI has the arrest max but $40 bucks per acre seems steep to me
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:12 pm to
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$40 bucks per acre seems steep to me

You've got a zero off somewhere.

The one our co-op carries is called Volunteer. Its a 26% product. I see where Rural King has one by Agri Star has on their web site for $49 per gallon. That seems about right. Clethodim

The way I always remember it is that the best rate for Clethodim is 12.8 oz per acre. Of course there's 128 oz in a gallon. So a gallon does 10 acres. That's about $5 per acre.

Also, Poast is good. But it comes in 2.5g no 1g jugs. And You use a quart 32oz instead of 12.8oz. So the math gets a little fuzzier. And it's more product to carry. It's actually the same in that 1 jug does 10 acres. It's just that with Poast, one jug is 2.5g and with Clethodim one jug is 1g.

I have found that this time of year Clethodim works better on the big, tall grass that you've got than Poast does. You're basically a solid moth, or two, late spraying.

One tip is to mix a pint of Glyphosate (Roundup, 42%) per acre in with your Clethodim. It wont kill the clover. It will burn it for a couple of weeks is all. But it will really help with your weeds and mature, tough grasses this time of year.
Posted by DocHoliday11
South Georgia
Member since Jun 2013
4313 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 11:24 pm to
You da man, Colors. I swear I saw on Amazon and another site where a pint of Arrest Max was like 40 dollars. Maybe I looked at it wrong. Either way thank you very much for the tip! You've answered like the last 3 of my questions. May just start sending you questions in the mail with $5 attached
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 5:59 am to
No problem.

I am sure that somewhere like TWI sells a quart for $40. It's just a repack of an actual, commercial strength Ag product.

This is because the average food plot in the world is something like half an acre. If you ask the average hunter how big his average food plot is, he will probably say 2-3 acres.

Another tip: Get on Daft Logic Web site and zero in on the aerial imagery of your food plot. Then use the arrow to plot a perimeter. That will give you the actual acreage. Helps with your budget.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11415 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 8:07 am to
We use Select Max when we burn down and have glyphosate resistant Italian Ryegrass. We catch it when you can spray like 8-10 oz so it's not too expensive. Once it starts getting bigger, it takes a pint to kill it and a pint will cost like $10-12/acre.

You can get generics cheaper than that at any local chemical distributor, like Helena, Sanders, CPS, etc.
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 4/20/17 at 8:23 am to
Curious why you like Select vs Gramoxone on IRG at burndown?
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11415 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 9:40 am to
It's personal preference really. We'll go Gramoxone in the fall because the rye grass that's sprouted is so small and it's easier to pick out a window of warm sunny days for Gramoxone to get a good kill.

That being said, it's tough to time Gramoxone in February-April. The airplane is very selective about when they're going to spray it, and if you wait until it's dry enough to burn down with a ground rig, then the weather pattern usually is that you have just a couple days then it's going to turn off cold and cloudy again, which usually doesn't let Gramoxone reach its full potential. Just kind of exposes you and leaves that possibility to come back and have to spray it again.

Select is a slow worker in the spring, but it just melts the rye grass away over a month and a half or so. It's easier to drag off if you're running a do all in front of the planters, and you don't have to worry about it competing with corn for Nitrogen.

I'm not a Gramoxone hater, we're going to spray it behind the cotton planters. I just like Select more, especially if you're growing corn.
Posted by canthuntenough
Member since Dec 2011
70 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 12:33 pm to
I tried this brand last fall. Seemed to do well. I think it was $60 for a gallon online.

Dakota Herbicide
Approximate use rate: 12-16 ounces per acre.

For small batch spot spray use: 0.5-1 ounce per gallon of water.

Use Charge SOC (Crop Oil replacement) with Dakota at 2 quarts per 100 gallons of water or 1 pint per 25 gallons of water (1/2 ounce per gallon water).


See label for specific use rate
Rainfast after 1 Hour
For broadleaf control use Butyrac 200 sprayed separately!



ACTIVE INGREDIENT:

Clethodim.....26.4%

OTHER INGREDIENTS.....73.6%

TOTAL.....100.0%
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