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Two LA Whooping Cranes Have Died

Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:35 am
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:35 am
One being the chick that was native hatched last year.

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We are sad to report that we have lost two members of the 2016 cohort in the last few weeks. Female L1-16 was found with a compound fracture to her lower right leg and had to be euthanized, while parent-reared juvenile L27-16 died on 12 March. The other 25 juveniles are doing well however! Ten are currently in eastern Texas in two separate groups, while the rest remain in Louisiana. There are 8 at the White Lake WCA, 3 at the Rockefeller WR, 1 on private land in Cameron Parish, and 3 who are roaming around!
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32539 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:44 am to
I would love to know how much money we are wasting on this.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25946 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:46 am to
boooo
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:46 am to
Dedicated funds, federal grants, and private funding.

None of this is derived from taxes paid into the general fund. Any tax money used on this is coming from funds generated by hunters and fishermen with the expressed intent being to use it on projecrs such as this.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20451 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:49 am to
Seems overblown or no news to me, a 100% survival rate is a pipe dream. 10 of 12 are alive right? 83% seems really good still?
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32539 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:05 am to
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Any tax money used on this is coming from funds generated by hunters and fishermen with the expressed intent being to use it on projecrs such as this.


Such as the sale of hunting licenses? This money could go to other coastal restoration projects.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38735 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:06 am to
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This money could go to other coastal restoration projects.


Well, sure. But technically, this is a coastal restoration project itself.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25946 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:08 am to
Well 17% dying in a short time span seems like news to me?
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32539 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:10 am to
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Well, sure. But technically, this is a coastal restoration project itself.

And I get that, it just seems like they are fighting a losing battle, and we could be spending the money in a better place for a better project.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25946 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:13 am to
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coastal restoration


talk about
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fighting a losing battle
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:37 am to
Uh, no, it can't. That is not what Pittman-Robertson funds are for. Wildlife and Fisheries is not tasked with Coastal Restoration in the state. CPRA is.

They may be involved with some, but there is plenty of funding going into coastal restoration in Louisiana.

And yeah, calling this a losing battle and saying funds should go to coastal restoration is the ultimate definition of "pot meet kettle".
Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7581 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:38 am to
hate to see this
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32539 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:48 am to
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the ultimate definition of "pot meet kettle"

No, it's not.
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12357 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:54 am to
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it just seems like they are fighting a losing battle

Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32539 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:00 am to
Thanks for illustrating my point. We have spent countless man hours and millions of dollars for a total population of less than 200 birds.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39503 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:01 am to
Your point was that it's a losing battle. The illustration actually proves your point wrong. Try again
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32539 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:02 am to
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Your point was that it's a losing battle. The illustration actually proves your point wrong. Try again

You think spend that much money and man power for that small of a population that wouldn't survive on its own is winning?
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39503 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:03 am to
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You think spend that much money and man power


quote:

I would love to know how much money we are wasting on this.


So tell us what you know
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 11:05 am
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
38735 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:03 am to
There is another 17 years of missing current data.

I'm pretty sure between us, and the migrating from Maryland to South Texas flocks the total numbers are up over 600.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32539 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:10 am to
A quick google search proided this
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With all the time and effort that has gone into the reclamation of the Whooping Crane population, you might get the impression that this is a valuable bird and you’d be right in strictly monetary terms The FWS has spent on the order of $6.1 million annually on Whooping Crane recovery. Given the long lifespan of the birds, their low recruitment, and the fact that it takes nearly 10 years to build a population of 100 individual birds, we’re looking at an estimated outlay of something on the order of $126 million through 2035, according to published budgets. You would be justified in setting the cost of a single Whooping Crane, at minimum, at just over $12,000 per year.
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