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Trying to kill a goose...
Posted on 1/7/17 at 10:27 pm
Posted on 1/7/17 at 10:27 pm
So, I'll take any advice you guys can give me..
A little background... Got into a new lease this year, and was told the geese come in thick later in the year. Well, I didn't expect multiple hundreds/thousands to be piling into the ponds in and around us. I have access to around 200 acres of crawfish ponds (south LA).
After the specs and snows moved in I went out looking at goose decoys... $99 per 4 floaters? Well like a fool I bought 8 floaters and 6 full bodies. I've set them up with my ducks in the short end of a J setup. Set them up at the end of the long end of a J, and I have tried hunting over just 8 floaters while hiding in some brush. Nothing... Nothing coming even close.
To those who have had success around here... I ask nicely for some insight on what you've found that works. I'd rather not invest a grand in goose decoys to pluck a couple from the sky. A cheap option would be awesome.
edit: I bought a spec and snow haydel call. I haven't really tried using it hunting. My sound is all over the place, and though I have tried nothing wants to commit.
A little background... Got into a new lease this year, and was told the geese come in thick later in the year. Well, I didn't expect multiple hundreds/thousands to be piling into the ponds in and around us. I have access to around 200 acres of crawfish ponds (south LA).
After the specs and snows moved in I went out looking at goose decoys... $99 per 4 floaters? Well like a fool I bought 8 floaters and 6 full bodies. I've set them up with my ducks in the short end of a J setup. Set them up at the end of the long end of a J, and I have tried hunting over just 8 floaters while hiding in some brush. Nothing... Nothing coming even close.
To those who have had success around here... I ask nicely for some insight on what you've found that works. I'd rather not invest a grand in goose decoys to pluck a couple from the sky. A cheap option would be awesome.
edit: I bought a spec and snow haydel call. I haven't really tried using it hunting. My sound is all over the place, and though I have tried nothing wants to commit.
This post was edited on 1/7/17 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 1/7/17 at 10:49 pm to Athletix
Note: I'm not a regular goose hunter.
Get rags instead of more full bodied decoys. Geese like lots and lots. And will prefer moist stubble over flooded ponds, so the rags will be better suited to dryer fields.
Get rags instead of more full bodied decoys. Geese like lots and lots. And will prefer moist stubble over flooded ponds, so the rags will be better suited to dryer fields.
Posted on 1/7/17 at 11:26 pm to Athletix
Move to the geese. Keep in mind if someone is hunting the adjacent property, respect their area and don't move in on them. But it is still your 200 acres.
I will watch for the flight pattern of the geese as it changes with the wind. If you hunt by yourself a lot like I do don't even worry about snows, unless it is windy or foggy.
Focus on the Specks. I get Specks with just 3 full bodies sometimes but the geese have to want the field. I have never goose hunted over crawfish ponds but I have seen geese in crawfish ponds. If you do not consistently jump birds out of your field when you go out to hunt, chances are there is nothing in your fields that is going to draw them in to your decoys and calls.
Set up downwind and don't set the decoys too close to you. Don't overcall if they are close as they can tell where the sound comes from.
I love turkey hunting too and it is amazing how birds can pinpoint where the call is coming from versus where decoys are. Be vigilant of this.
My favorite days are very windy or foggy. Find their flight path and move to them.
BTW, when I am hunting away from the blind I have a Ghillie suit that is worth its weight in gold!
Good Luck! I love me some bird hunting.
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I will watch for the flight pattern of the geese as it changes with the wind. If you hunt by yourself a lot like I do don't even worry about snows, unless it is windy or foggy.
Focus on the Specks. I get Specks with just 3 full bodies sometimes but the geese have to want the field. I have never goose hunted over crawfish ponds but I have seen geese in crawfish ponds. If you do not consistently jump birds out of your field when you go out to hunt, chances are there is nothing in your fields that is going to draw them in to your decoys and calls.
Set up downwind and don't set the decoys too close to you. Don't overcall if they are close as they can tell where the sound comes from.
I love turkey hunting too and it is amazing how birds can pinpoint where the call is coming from versus where decoys are. Be vigilant of this.
My favorite days are very windy or foggy. Find their flight path and move to them.
BTW, when I am hunting away from the blind I have a Ghillie suit that is worth its weight in gold!
Good Luck! I love me some bird hunting.
LINK
Posted on 1/7/17 at 11:30 pm to Athletix
Man idk what to tell you, frick geese
Posted on 1/7/17 at 11:39 pm to Athletix
This is my first season chasing specks and I have used 2 dozen of these ( LINK) coupled with a few floaters and a shells this season. Think we have shot 30 or so specks in 10 hunts.
I have been blowing the QuackHead Specktackler that I bought for like $20 and it's worked well. I practiced calling in the car everyday since September and have finally gotten decent.
The main thing I can tell is you have to be where the birds want to go. After that it's just keeping them interested enough to give your decoys a good look.
I have been blowing the QuackHead Specktackler that I bought for like $20 and it's worked well. I practiced calling in the car everyday since September and have finally gotten decent.
The main thing I can tell is you have to be where the birds want to go. After that it's just keeping them interested enough to give your decoys a good look.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 7:01 am to GeauxMatt624
Goose stick together, if there's 1000s in the same field they will all keep going to that same field. Your best bet is often to get on the corners of your property and pass shoot them or set up the dekes hoping one group going toward the rest will give your set up a 2nd or 3rd look from lower.
Are you just setting up our goose dekes or you mean 8 within your duck dekes? Definitely set up your duck dekes too obviously.
Are you just setting up our goose dekes or you mean 8 within your duck dekes? Definitely set up your duck dekes too obviously.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 7:11 am to Stexas
quote:not gonna kill a lot of geese over ducks decoys. Need super shallow water or a dry field.
. And will prefer moist stubble over flooded ponds, so the rags will be better suited to dryer fields
Or a spread like I'm posting from
This post was edited on 1/8/17 at 7:13 am
Posted on 1/8/17 at 7:12 am to Athletix
Snow goose and speck hunting are two totally different animals. You can get by with as little as two full body speck decoys and have luck. They decoy well like ducks when it's right. Go with someone or have someone come to your place and show you how to set up on the specks. Learning to call is big with specks but even bigger is when to call. When they start answering you, it's almost a slam dunk practice calling
For snows, you need lots of decoys or rags. sounds like the snows are on a roosting pond and you are in the flyway of it which is good
My advice is to find a buddy with a bunch of snow decoys and rags and set up on them and see. It can get expensive and is time consuming. For every great snow goose hunt I have been on, I have been on three bad ones. All the stars have to align to get them to act right in a rag spread. Specks will work into he snow rags also
They call snow geese the democrats of the sky for a reason. They are loud, travel in large groups, and won't work
Best advice is to just creep the bastards and be done with it
For snows, you need lots of decoys or rags. sounds like the snows are on a roosting pond and you are in the flyway of it which is good
My advice is to find a buddy with a bunch of snow decoys and rags and set up on them and see. It can get expensive and is time consuming. For every great snow goose hunt I have been on, I have been on three bad ones. All the stars have to align to get them to act right in a rag spread. Specks will work into he snow rags also
They call snow geese the democrats of the sky for a reason. They are loud, travel in large groups, and won't work
Best advice is to just creep the bastards and be done with it
Posted on 1/8/17 at 8:05 am to Athletix
First things first, you CANNOT have a Mojo out if you want to kill geese.
I hunted geese for 15 years in south la and duck decoys and goose decoys need to be separated. Goose decoys should always be directly upwind of the blind. Depending on wind speed will dictate the distance from the blind that you need to put them.
Secondly, you are not setting decoys to "try and make them land" in your decoys and shoot them there, you are merely setting the decoys in a position to get them to work the decoy setup and when the begin working, their circles will make them pass over or very near your blind.
Cover, this is a must.. basically if you can see the birds, they can see you. You need to have a crap ton of cover over the blind and keep replentishing it every hunt.
Lastly, you absolutely need to know how to call and when to call. Never call when they are over the blind, they will look where the call is coming from and instantaneously see you and your crew. Always call when they are flying around and then give it a break when they are aware of you and your decoys and then hit them again when they aren't looking and cupped up.
I hunted geese for 15 years in south la and duck decoys and goose decoys need to be separated. Goose decoys should always be directly upwind of the blind. Depending on wind speed will dictate the distance from the blind that you need to put them.
Secondly, you are not setting decoys to "try and make them land" in your decoys and shoot them there, you are merely setting the decoys in a position to get them to work the decoy setup and when the begin working, their circles will make them pass over or very near your blind.
Cover, this is a must.. basically if you can see the birds, they can see you. You need to have a crap ton of cover over the blind and keep replentishing it every hunt.
Lastly, you absolutely need to know how to call and when to call. Never call when they are over the blind, they will look where the call is coming from and instantaneously see you and your crew. Always call when they are flying around and then give it a break when they are aware of you and your decoys and then hit them again when they aren't looking and cupped up.
This post was edited on 1/8/17 at 8:08 am
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:20 am to tcomea3
So, finally got to shoot AT one today. My pit blind I hunt most faces south. I setup my 8 spec floaters north of the blind facing into the wind swimming towards my 6 full bodies which were amongst the tall rice about 50 yards from me. They worked good and a buddy with shitty calling got them to pass probably 30 yards over head. They sucked up some bbs... Beretta a300 modified #2 Kent.. probably should opt for some bbs when they start moving in? Maybe screw in the full choke?
I appreciate the advice and today the birds worked better with less birds in the area.
I appreciate the advice and today the birds worked better with less birds in the area.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 12:18 pm to Athletix
I shoot modified. Been shooting #2s all season. They'll crunch if you hit them right.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:12 pm to jimbeam
Learn to use a speck call. And, if you have a friend that can call, both of y'all call at the same time.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:49 pm to Athletix
I would always shoot 3-1/2" #1s.. if you can't bring them down with that, then you are shooting them too high..
Realistically, geese have to be 40-50 yards max, to kill.. otherwise you aren't going to kill them/knock them down other than the rare broken wing.
Realistically, geese have to be 40-50 yards max, to kill.. otherwise you aren't going to kill them/knock them down other than the rare broken wing.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 3:09 pm to Athletix
A lot of times they are further than you think because of how big they are, but you also have to lead them more than you think. You don't want to be hitting them in the body with #2s, gotta break their neck or wing.
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