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Tough lesson on the importance of being attentive
Posted on 5/18/16 at 8:51 am
Posted on 5/18/16 at 8:51 am
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...Thibodeaux’s attorney, David Rozas, said the horrific accident happened because his client became distracted while he and his wife were discussing purchasing a new home.
“No one ever suggested the accident didn’t happen through fault,” Rozas said. “He has a lot of experience handling guns. (But) he was distracted from committing all the same processes he usually does.”
The Advocate
Is cleaning a gun something a person should do by themselve?
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Posted on 5/18/16 at 9:17 am to chinese58
Had a coworker shoot himself last year in the stomach while cleaning his wifes .380
He got lucky. But he admits fault and thats the result when you dont #1 assume every gun is loaded before you pick it up.
He got lucky. But he admits fault and thats the result when you dont #1 assume every gun is loaded before you pick it up.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 9:20 am to rattlebucket
I don't understand how you pick a gun up, any gun, and not check to see if it's loaded. And even if it isn't loaded, why would you point it at yourself, or at anyone else?
Hell i know my gun isn't loaded, yet i still get nervous that somehow a bullet will magically find its way into the chamber.
Hell i know my gun isn't loaded, yet i still get nervous that somehow a bullet will magically find its way into the chamber.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 9:26 am to chinese58
Sad. The girl was from my mom's side of the family.
This is odd:
This is odd:
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Gassie told reporters she felt Thibodeaux treated them differently after her daughter’s death and never admitted to them his fault in the shooting.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 9:27 am to TeddyPadillac
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I don't understand how you pick a gun up, any gun, and not check to see if it's loaded.
My gun is ALWAYS loaded.
Your gun is ALWAYS loaded.
The other guy's gun is ALWAYS loaded.
That's what I was taught.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 9:33 am to Shexter
I've had guns for 30 years and I still don't know what part of cleaning a gun involves pulling the trigger? As said, I'll pull my guns out on my dining room table to mess with my scope or clean them with my family around but it's ALWAYS under the assumption that something could go wrong so the chambers are open and they are pointed in a safe direction.
The proper way to clean a handgun is breach open, no mag, etc. How you don't see its loaded and furthermore squeeze the trigger in the direction of a human is simply inexcusable.
Literally every time I've cleaned on or seen someone else clean a gun it's removed from holster, clip removed, and chamber emptied. It's pretty dang basic.
The proper way to clean a handgun is breach open, no mag, etc. How you don't see its loaded and furthermore squeeze the trigger in the direction of a human is simply inexcusable.
Literally every time I've cleaned on or seen someone else clean a gun it's removed from holster, clip removed, and chamber emptied. It's pretty dang basic.
This post was edited on 5/18/16 at 9:35 am
Posted on 5/18/16 at 9:35 am to Shexter
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My gun is ALWAYS loaded.
Your gun is ALWAYS loaded.
The other guy's gun is ALWAYS loaded.
That's what I was taught.
Yep, every single gun is locked and loaded by default. You must unload a gun manually before you can consider it unloaded.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 9:36 am to baldona
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I've had guns for 30 years and I still don't know what part of cleaning a gun involves pulling the trigger?
Honestly, I'll work the trigger when I oil it as I'm finishing up, but that's with the slide off and no barrel on the gun.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 9:37 am to baldona
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I've had guns for 30 years and I still don't know what part of cleaning a gun involves pulling the trigger?
It's required to take the slide off a Glock. You have to pull the trigger before you push down the takedown lever and remove the slide.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 9:37 am to Jester
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You must unload a gun manually before you can consider it unloaded
And then you still practice muzzle discipline.
This is why we have rules.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 9:38 am to Jester
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when I oil it as I'm finishing up, but that's with the slide off and no barrel on the gun.
Well I know, I'm not saying I don't pull the trigger in my house. But I don't think it's actually part of 'cleaning the gun'.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 9:39 am to baldona
Not excusing, literally just explaining the trigger part.
Some pistols (glock, Springfield XR,...) in order to remove the slide, you have to release the firing pin (pull the trigger). That is still no excuse for what happened. It is one of the biggest rules to insure it is unloaded and chamber empty prior to this step. But if you want to remove the slide you have to pull the trigger on some pistols.
Some pistols (glock, Springfield XR,...) in order to remove the slide, you have to release the firing pin (pull the trigger). That is still no excuse for what happened. It is one of the biggest rules to insure it is unloaded and chamber empty prior to this step. But if you want to remove the slide you have to pull the trigger on some pistols.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 9:45 am to TeddyPadillac
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I don't understand how you pick a gun up, any gun, and not check to see if it's loaded.
This! And next in line is how do you shoot at ANYTHING without being 100% certain of the identity, or AT LEAST be 100% certain it is not a human (speaking of hunting mis-identification "accidents").
Posted on 5/18/16 at 10:13 am to Shexter
there are no training requirements to gun ownership. no licensing, no continuing education, no tests, other than initial background checks to buy.
it's good that you were taught well, but tons of gun owners were not taught anything. even those who were can get careless, like the subject of the article.
and we still have people arguing over the safety on a Glock.
it's good that you were taught well, but tons of gun owners were not taught anything. even those who were can get careless, like the subject of the article.
and we still have people arguing over the safety on a Glock.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 10:17 am to Mung
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and we still have people arguing over the safety on a Glock.
One thing that grinds my gears is that the anti-gun lobby has basically tried to steal the term "gun safety" like it has something to do with policy.
Not related to your response but a nice pedestal to vent/bitch from...
Posted on 5/18/16 at 10:21 am to uway
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And then you still practice muzzle discipline.
This is why we have rules.
No doubt. Hell, I pay attention to what direction I lay the barrel after I remove it.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 10:22 am to Mung
quote:And the gun nuts on here act as if these people don't exist. They also can't seem to grasp unanticipated misuse.
there are no training requirements to gun ownership. no licensing, no continuing education, no tests, other than initial background checks to buy.
it's good that you were taught well, but tons of gun owners were not taught anything. even those who were can get careless, like the subject of the article.
and we still have people arguing over the safety on a Glock.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 10:23 am to Mung
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there are no training requirements to gun ownership. no licensing, no continuing education, no tests, other than initial background checks to buy.
There are tests and licensing for driving a car and people do dumb, unsafe shite that kills people everyday.
Posted on 5/18/16 at 10:27 am to chinese58
I know these people. Tough to hear that call
Posted on 5/18/16 at 10:28 am to TeddyPadillac
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I don't understand how you pick a gun up, any gun, and not check to see if it's loaded. And even if it isn't loaded, why would you point it at yourself, or at anyone else?
Because people are stupid.....it's really that simple.
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