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re: Rut Timing?
Posted on 10/25/22 at 3:03 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Posted on 10/25/22 at 3:03 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Henry and Dale counties in Alabama. The rut is late January.
Ala rut times are really screwy. I used to hunt around Omaha, Ga years back. Rut was 1st wk in Nov.
300 yds away across the Chattahoochie was Barbour County , Al.
Rut was first wk of Jan. there.
300 yds away and damn near two months difference….. insane
This post was edited on 10/25/22 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 10/25/22 at 3:22 pm to AUTimbo
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300 yds away across the Chattahoochie was Barbour County , Al.
Rut was first wk of Jan. there.
Not knowing that area, is one side of the river a bluff and the other side lower and historically susceptible to spring floods?
Certain subspecies of white-tails evolved such that their rut is earlier so the fawns would be old enough and big enough to travel with momma to flee when the floods came. That's the reason peak rut in some areas of Iberia and Vermilion Parishes begin in September.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 4:24 pm to REB BEER
I mostly hunt in the NE quarter of St. Helena Parish (at parish line) and this chart makes sense.
Don’t see a lot of chasing, but it can happen anytime from December-February.
See spots through December.
Don’t see a lot of chasing, but it can happen anytime from December-February.
See spots through December.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 4:54 pm to REB BEER
estimate for 2014 - little dated
Posted on 10/25/22 at 5:47 pm to Volt
MS river parishes tend to have later ruts The doe needs to still be pregnant for the spring/summer floods recede.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 5:49 pm to AUTimbo
Yup. My buddies with leases in Ga right across the river have theirs in November. Ours starts right around the MLK holiday weekend or later.
Posted on 10/25/22 at 6:48 pm to REB BEER
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is one side of the river a bluff and the other side lower and historically susceptible to spring floods?
Not noticably. Bit steeper probably on Ga side.
But very interesting info. Will have to maybe research it a bit when I get a chance. ;)
Posted on 10/25/22 at 6:54 pm to AUTimbo
I have heard that when Ga revitalized it’s herd, after The Depression had cleaned the state out, that deer were brought in from Wisconsin and Kansas to replenish the herds in that part of Ga.
Supposedly their genetics causes them to maintain a rut date more in line with their original areas rut dates then the new “homes” rut.
Or so I have heard
Supposedly their genetics causes them to maintain a rut date more in line with their original areas rut dates then the new “homes” rut.
Or so I have heard
Posted on 10/26/22 at 12:38 am to REB BEER
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Certain subspecies of white-tails evolved
I doubt that would exemplify a subspecies. A sub species should take more than that to create. Like “key deer””, that is a subspecies or a “coues deer”. Now some deer might have evolved to adapt to a flood, but a bluff on one side of a river shouldn’t create a subspecies.
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:14 am to SoFla Tideroller
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That chart is nowhere close to being correct for Henry and Dale counties in Alabama. The rut is late January
I don’t know what to tell you. Looks like it’s pretty accurate for everyone but you.??????????
Posted on 10/26/22 at 8:42 am to Outdoorreb
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but a bluff on one side of a river shouldn’t create a subspecies.
Any geographical "divide" that keeps a species from readily breeding with other portions of the population can cause subspecies to evolve. IIRC there were 27 subspecies of white-tails in North America when man arrived. Now they're pretty much all mixed up after restocking programs in the 1950's and 60's. Before the Mississippi River was channelized and leveed the deer on the east and west sides in La and Ms were different subspecies for example.
One other answer to why the deer AUTimbo was talking about have such a difference in breeding timing is, maybe the deer on opposite sides of the river were restocked from different parts of the country.
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