- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Recommend a Handgun
Posted on 12/4/13 at 1:22 am to North Texas Tiger
Posted on 12/4/13 at 1:22 am to North Texas Tiger
quote:
more reliable
Go on....
Posted on 12/4/13 at 1:27 am to SabiDojo
quote:
Go on....
I can tell you we train a lot of LEO's and they have some problems with the XD's extractors. Trust me I am no Team Glock or Team Colt or Team whatever. I am just passing on info on what we have experienced in real life training.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 1:28 am to North Texas Tiger
That's cool. Which ones do you find to be the most reliable?
Posted on 12/4/13 at 1:43 am to SabiDojo
quote:
That's cool. Which ones do you find to be the most reliable?
I will tell you its not just my opinion but tons of research and field training by many firearms experts that shoot tens of thousands of rounds in LE and military.
I was a die hard 1911 guy until I saw failure after failure at the range during our training that guys who carried 1911 had during training. There is something to be said that you get what you pay for with the 1911.
Now with the new polymer guns there has been a marked increase with lots of new guns entering the market the past 5 years. I can tell you that our firearms guy, who doesn't have an agenda and a former 1911 guy, has switched over to glock for everyday carry. And I can tell you he even bitches about glock. However they have singled it down to Glock, S&W M&P series and HK.
I carry the HK P30 and love it because I like all of the variations an the option of carrying it cocked and locked like my 1911. The trigger sucks compared to the 1911 but I am slowly getting used to it. Out of those three I actually like the Glock better but I cant get passed the fact that the trigger is the safety.
I stop there because there are many more opinions that I can offer and most people don't give a shite
Posted on 12/4/13 at 6:43 am to RollTideATL
I have a Ruger LC9 9mm with a Crimson Trace laser sight for my concealed carry weapon and I love it. I'm looking for a compact .40 and may buy myself one for Christmas.
Someone suggested a Ruger LCP .380 but I find the pistol is too small for my hands and I don't have large hands so be sure you look at that before buying one.
Someone suggested a Ruger LCP .380 but I find the pistol is too small for my hands and I don't have large hands so be sure you look at that before buying one.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:28 am to rcrawfish1
G19
But if you like 1911s, The Ruger is one 1911 that is hard to beat right now.
If you like Springfield Xd you can probably get one hell of a deal right now. Go down to your local Fed-Ex shop and you will find XD owners there.
But if you like 1911s, The Ruger is one 1911 that is hard to beat right now.
If you like Springfield Xd you can probably get one hell of a deal right now. Go down to your local Fed-Ex shop and you will find XD owners there.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:34 am to greystreettoker
Springfield XD or XDm
Posted on 12/4/13 at 7:46 am to RollTideATL
First firearm a recommend CZ sp01 9mm. Easy to shoot, high capacity and the heft really minimizes recoil. I have glocks, HK, FN, and it's still my favorite handgun to shoot.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:00 am to Putty
For a first handgun a full sized revolver in .357 magnum is the best choice. A single action is best for learning, but a double action is a much more practical defensive handgun.
Simple to maintain, versatile caliber, and a longer overall length that encourages muzzle control.
I maintain that any semiautomatic pistol is a bad choice for a first time handgun owner. They are inherently complex and dangerous.
Simple to maintain, versatile caliber, and a longer overall length that encourages muzzle control.
I maintain that any semiautomatic pistol is a bad choice for a first time handgun owner. They are inherently complex and dangerous.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:07 am to RollTideATL
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:10 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
I maintain that any semiautomatic pistol is a bad choice for a first time handgun owner. They are inherently complex and dangerous.
Eh, revolvers are less complex for sure, but if you're not competent enough to trust yourself with a relatively safe semi-auto, I hope for the rest of us you just stay away from firearms altogether.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:15 am to North Texas Tiger
quote:
I stop there because there are many more opinions that I can offer and most people don't give a shite
What do you think of my favorite, the Browning Hi-Power? I think it's still used around the world by military and police forces. Combat proven and 78 years of refinement.
A Hi-Power with a Pachmayr grip is the most comfortable, pointable pistol I've ever fired. And it has a very elegant, simple internal design.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:16 am to Putty
Trusting yourself is completely different from being competent. Plenty of people play call of duty all day and would trust themselves to carry around hand grenades.
People new to guns tend to not have respect for them in the way they should with regards to muzzle control and clearing the gun before handling it. A ton of AD's happen every year from somebody dropping the mag, forgetting to clear the chamber, and pulling the trigger. Also, the manual of arms is much more complex for any semiauto, safeties or not.
A revolver isn't idiot proof by any means, but it does encourage safe handling more than a semiauto. And it's not like you're shafting yourself out of a good self defense handgun by getting a revolver. Revolvers have lots of attributes that make them great choices, first and foremost being reliability and horsepower.
People new to guns tend to not have respect for them in the way they should with regards to muzzle control and clearing the gun before handling it. A ton of AD's happen every year from somebody dropping the mag, forgetting to clear the chamber, and pulling the trigger. Also, the manual of arms is much more complex for any semiauto, safeties or not.
A revolver isn't idiot proof by any means, but it does encourage safe handling more than a semiauto. And it's not like you're shafting yourself out of a good self defense handgun by getting a revolver. Revolvers have lots of attributes that make them great choices, first and foremost being reliability and horsepower.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 8:30 am to PierPunk
quote:
Springfield XDM
I know nothing about pistols, but traded a guy my old youth model 243 that I don't use anymore for a brand new XDM 9mm. I'm getting it today, are these pretty good pistols?
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 9:06 am
Posted on 12/4/13 at 9:28 am to MillerMan
quote:
I know nothing about pistols, but traded a guy my old youth model 243 that I don't use anymore for a brand new XDM 9mm. I'm getting it today, are these pretty good pistols?
Yes. When I was selling guns, we sold more XD's and XDM's than any gun in the shop.... And yes we had a giant case of Glocks right next to the Springfields.
In my experience, the average shooter enjoys the fit and feel of an XDM over a Glock. I'm not going to get into a reliability debate with anybody, but we sold more Springfields because of the comfort customers felt with the XDM as opposed to the "block" or "2x4" feel of a Glock. TIFWIW
I enjoy the HK's more but they're twice as much in most cases.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 9:30 am to North Texas Tiger
Thanks for your input.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 9:31 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:Yikes....
They are inherently complex and dangerous.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 9:39 am to RollTideATL
The Ruger SR9c is the perfect 1st handgun. It's light, good trigger, has a safety, 2 mags and usually you can get them for under $400.
Posted on 12/4/13 at 9:44 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
People new to guns tend to not have respect for them in the way they should with regards to muzzle control and clearing the gun before handling it. A ton of AD's happen every year from somebody dropping the mag, forgetting to clear the chamber, and pulling the trigger.
I don't doubt what you're saying (Bapple can probably provide some horror stories) - but it wasn't always like this - novices, females particularly, often had the opposite problem - a fear or apprehension around the weapon, rather than an appropriate level of respect and caution.
More typically, you have the experienced shooter that gets too comfortable and loses the fundamentals - THAT was more common in the old days.
However, as you suggest, the "Call of Duty" generation thinks they already know how to handle weapons because they've been on combat missions since they were 10.
ETA: As to the OP's point - I'll make the pitch for a Sig SP2022 - underrated as a semi, in my opinion - very cost effective (which is unusual for a Sig), high quality, light, but with a more conventional fire control system of SA/DA with an exposed hammer.
However, I echo Downshift and suggest something like a K-frame or L-frame Smith - or, even better a Ruger GP100 with a 4" barrel. A great all around weapon, chambered in the most proven manstopping round of all time, .357 magnum. It is possible to take light game at short range with the weapon, as well as pleasure shoot with light .38 special rounds.
If you select either a S&W 686 or a Ruger GP100 - these will likely be heirlooms passed down from generation to generation. It is not uncommon for such a revolver to see 2 decades, plus, of moderate use, or generations of light use.
Far fewer things to go wrong - if loaded, there is virtually zero chance of it not going bang in a crisis situation when you're not thinking straight, anyway.
This post was edited on 12/4/13 at 9:49 am
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News