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Question for the OB Electricians (fixed)
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:40 am
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:40 am
A few weeks ago we had a lot of lightening and the next day all of my bathroom outlets were out. I checked the breaker and it was fine but the GFI in the kitchen was tripped (apparently they are all on the same circuit). I tried to reset the GFI but it just popped back out. I unplugged everything from every bathroom and kitchen outlet and it still won't reset. I replaced the GFI outlet and still the new one won't reset. Any ideas? TIA.
P.S. Yes I'm ignorant of electricity.
P.S. Yes I'm ignorant of electricity.
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 4:54 pm
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:43 am to OldSouth
quote:
I checked the breaker
Are you certain it's the correct breaker? I drove myself crazy with this same scenario a few weeks ago. A buddy who knows a lot more than me came over and showed me a secondary box with fuses, not breakers, and that is what we replaced.
I always wondered why I would shut down all the breakers and some stuff was still running. I chalked it up to someone before me having a half assed electrical job done when they built the addition to the house.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:44 am to OldSouth
Fried your breaker. I bet it's a Square D
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:48 am to Clyde Tipton
quote:yeah. I had a builder friend look at it too. He has his elec license but it's not his specialty. He couldn't help.
Are you certain it's the correct breaker?
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:49 am to tenfoe
quote:Square D? Would that cause these symptoms?
Fried your breaker. I bet it's a Square D
ETA: I guess I'll replace the breaker and see what happens
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 8:55 am
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:00 am to OldSouth
You sure you hooked the line/ load sides back up right when you changed the GFI?
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:04 am to Tino
Yeah. Had the builder friend double check it.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:05 am to OldSouth
Hmmmm, I'm stumped then without actually looking at it
Eta. There is a slight chance you got a bad gfi out the box
Eta. There is a slight chance you got a bad gfi out the box
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 9:09 am
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:09 am to OldSouth
there's no second gfi in garage or anything?
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:10 am to OldSouth
It is the GFI tripping not the breaker. correct?
if so, the breaker is not the problem.
sounds like you have a short somewhere down stream (load side) of the GFI. it is possible that something plugged in downstream is causing the trip.
Considering the lightening storm, I would remove every receptacle downstream of the subject GFI, and inspect if there is any damage to receptacle, or any sign of shorting out to the outlet box (if outlet boxes are metal).
ETA:
un hook the load side from the GFI, and try resetting the GFI with no load downstream. if it resets, this should verify that the GFI itself is working, and there is a short downstream.
It is, also, worth checking the voltage at the GFI just to be sure it is getting correct voltage.
if so, the breaker is not the problem.
sounds like you have a short somewhere down stream (load side) of the GFI. it is possible that something plugged in downstream is causing the trip.
Considering the lightening storm, I would remove every receptacle downstream of the subject GFI, and inspect if there is any damage to receptacle, or any sign of shorting out to the outlet box (if outlet boxes are metal).
ETA:
un hook the load side from the GFI, and try resetting the GFI with no load downstream. if it resets, this should verify that the GFI itself is working, and there is a short downstream.
It is, also, worth checking the voltage at the GFI just to be sure it is getting correct voltage.
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 9:14 am
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:10 am to Tino
I got a bad gfi out a box once
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:24 am to Chad504boy
quote:no, I thought the outside gfi was on the same but I learned that it wasn't by shocking the piss outa myself.
there's no second gfi in garage or anything?
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 9:29 am
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:25 am to Bacon84
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This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 9:29 am
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:28 am to Bacon84
quote:
Considering the lightening storm, I would remove every receptacle downstream of the subject GFI, and inspect if there is any damage to receptacle, or any sign of shorting out to the outlet box (if outlet boxes are metal).
Plastic, should I still check?
quote:correct
It is the GFI tripping not the breaker. correct?
quote:nothing is plugged in.
sounds like you have a short somewhere down stream (load side) of the GFI. it is possible that something plugged in downstream is causing the trip.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:28 am to OldSouth
quote:
Plastic
You should still check each receptacle and make sure it is not shorting out look for burned spots especially.
But, the plastic box eliminates the possibility of it arcing to the box. It could very easily be a bad receptacle, which is a pretty easy fix, or could be a bad wire, which is much more difficult to fix.
Start by unhooking the load side of the GFI and see if it will then reset. At least that way you eliminate that possibility.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:22 am to OldSouth
I have seen breakers go bad from time to time, but it is usually older ones. I'd replace the GFI since they are cheap and easy
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 11:23 am
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:47 am to Bacon84
quote:This guy knows what he's talking about.
Bacon84
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:58 am to King George
did you turn the breaker off, then back on? When mine trip, they look like they are in the ON position. Very hard to tell they tripped.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:03 pm to kook
did you apply Ohm's law?
Posted on 1/13/15 at 1:16 pm to OldSouth
You could have a bad outlet on that circuit. Been there done that. Pull them all out and look for burn marks. Nothing needs to be plugged into the bad outlet for it to trip so you can't just go by that.
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