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Public waterfowl hearing Jefferson Parish (Updated with notes in OP)
Posted on 9/23/15 at 6:00 am
Posted on 9/23/15 at 6:00 am
Meeting tonight to discuss season dates, split changes and such with Larry Reynolds and the wildlife commission. Anyone other than me planning on going?
So the meeting was very informative.
1. If you don't like the season you can only blame yourself at this point there was a whopping 7 people that showed up to the meeting, amazing how many people can complain on the net but do nothing to back it up.
2. Overwhelming feedback from SE LA is to move the opening date further back than it is this year. Overwhelming support from the West zone to change it's season, East zone wants later dates.
3. The SW part of the state is overall pretty happy with an early date as the coastal zone is this year.
4. Season setting will be completely different this year. Duck season for next year will be set in December with a public comment period afterwards. No longer will the season bet set in late July/early August.
5. This year is also the year that we can change splits for the next 5 years. Seems to be a lot of differing opinion on what to do with the zones this year. Those in attendance last night felt we did NOT want to stay tied with SW LA and open early that was agreed upon 100%. Seems like the most likely option would be to put SE LA back in the East zone, however it's my opinion that it's still early to see how this will go.
6. Goose season Speck framework is open for change also this year we got more days (not near the full number allowed by the feds) nor did we get an increase in bag to 3 (also an option by the feds). Public opinion is for longer season and 3 birds the commission or at least some members of it are VERY against this, feeling in a nutshell that pressure is hurting the number of birds that are wintering in LA which is dramatically down over the last 5-10 years.
I am sure there is more but I have to go make kids lunches and will try and update when I can. Ultimately very disappointed in fellow hunters that with over a month's notice in multiple location less than 10 people showed up to comment.
So the meeting was very informative.
1. If you don't like the season you can only blame yourself at this point there was a whopping 7 people that showed up to the meeting, amazing how many people can complain on the net but do nothing to back it up.
2. Overwhelming feedback from SE LA is to move the opening date further back than it is this year. Overwhelming support from the West zone to change it's season, East zone wants later dates.
3. The SW part of the state is overall pretty happy with an early date as the coastal zone is this year.
4. Season setting will be completely different this year. Duck season for next year will be set in December with a public comment period afterwards. No longer will the season bet set in late July/early August.
5. This year is also the year that we can change splits for the next 5 years. Seems to be a lot of differing opinion on what to do with the zones this year. Those in attendance last night felt we did NOT want to stay tied with SW LA and open early that was agreed upon 100%. Seems like the most likely option would be to put SE LA back in the East zone, however it's my opinion that it's still early to see how this will go.
6. Goose season Speck framework is open for change also this year we got more days (not near the full number allowed by the feds) nor did we get an increase in bag to 3 (also an option by the feds). Public opinion is for longer season and 3 birds the commission or at least some members of it are VERY against this, feeling in a nutshell that pressure is hurting the number of birds that are wintering in LA which is dramatically down over the last 5-10 years.
I am sure there is more but I have to go make kids lunches and will try and update when I can. Ultimately very disappointed in fellow hunters that with over a month's notice in multiple location less than 10 people showed up to comment.
This post was edited on 9/24/15 at 6:57 am
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Posted on 9/23/15 at 6:01 am to Da Hammer
what time? this is about the closest meeting they have to my area.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 6:05 am to maisweh
6 pm Yenni Building. 2nd floor
Posted on 9/23/15 at 6:12 am to Da Hammer
Cliff notes for those of us that can't make it. 
Posted on 9/23/15 at 6:21 am to fishfighter
Will do fish as long as they don't throw me out.... I fully intend on speaking and if anyone has followed my posts on the season this year I didn't like the coastal zone change, nor the youth hunt on Halloween among a few other issues I've had we will see.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 6:32 am to Da Hammer
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I didn't like the coastal zone change, nor the youth hunt on Halloween
agree 100%...
Posted on 9/23/15 at 9:59 am to Da Hammer
I really hope people will attend and participate in the meeting. I'm told the presentation I give is informative and entertaining, but it is important that I receive some feedback on the proposed zone boundary changes.
SE Louisiana was the primary source of public comment that forced the Commission to set the season 1 week later than I proposed last season, and SE Louisiana has been the primary source of outrage when the Commission set the season 1 week earlier than I proposed this season. Consequently, 1 of the zone-boundary changes I am proposing is to move the boundary back to where it was prior to 2001, which is the Houma Navigation canal. That would put Lafourche, Jefferson, Plaquemines, and St. Bernard Parishes back in the East Zone with predictably later season dates.
I'm proposing that, but I don't necessarily think it's a good idea based on harvest data and habitat type. You might remember in 2012, I proposed putting all the coastal marsh around Lake Pontchartrain in the Coastal Zone. After all, it's the same coastal marsh and the same assemblage of birds.
So I'm looking for some feedback, positive or negative. I know there are hunters in SE Louisiana that reject the notion that the season needs to be later, just as there are hunters that strongly feel it needs to be.
At the 4 previous meetings, there has been no feedback on that particular zone-boundary change. This is the critical meeting to hear what local hunters have to say. Everyone will have an opportunity to speak, and I hope to see you there.
SE Louisiana was the primary source of public comment that forced the Commission to set the season 1 week later than I proposed last season, and SE Louisiana has been the primary source of outrage when the Commission set the season 1 week earlier than I proposed this season. Consequently, 1 of the zone-boundary changes I am proposing is to move the boundary back to where it was prior to 2001, which is the Houma Navigation canal. That would put Lafourche, Jefferson, Plaquemines, and St. Bernard Parishes back in the East Zone with predictably later season dates.
I'm proposing that, but I don't necessarily think it's a good idea based on harvest data and habitat type. You might remember in 2012, I proposed putting all the coastal marsh around Lake Pontchartrain in the Coastal Zone. After all, it's the same coastal marsh and the same assemblage of birds.
So I'm looking for some feedback, positive or negative. I know there are hunters in SE Louisiana that reject the notion that the season needs to be later, just as there are hunters that strongly feel it needs to be.
At the 4 previous meetings, there has been no feedback on that particular zone-boundary change. This is the critical meeting to hear what local hunters have to say. Everyone will have an opportunity to speak, and I hope to see you there.
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 10:02 am
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:03 am to Lreynolds
I look forward to a recap tomorrow.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:08 am to Lreynolds
quote:
1 of the zone-boundary changes I am proposing is to move the boundary back to where it was prior to 2001, which is the Houma Navigation canal. That would put Lafourche, Jefferson, Plaquemines, and St. Bernard Parishes back in the East Zone with predictably later season dates. I'm proposing that, but I don't necessarily think it's a good idea based on harvest data and habitat type. You might remember in 2012, I proposed putting all the coastal marsh around Lake Pontchartrain in the Coastal Zone. After all, it's the same coastal marsh and the same assemblage of birds. So I'm looking for some feedback, positive or negative. I know there are hunters in SE Louisiana that reject the notion that the season needs to be later, just as there are hunters that strongly feel it needs to be. At the 4 previous meetings, there has been no feedback on that particular zone-boundary change. This is the critical meeting to hear what local hunters have to say. Everyone will have an opportunity to speak, and I hope to see you there.
pushing it back there would mean having to choose between a "coot shoot" in lake boeuf and making the opening on a lease or on the WMA. I know most of the people around my area would opt to keep it where it is now just so they can make two different openings.
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:11 am to maisweh
quote:while true it is a horrible reasoning for keeping it the way it is
I know most of the people around my area would opt to keep it where it is now just so they can make two different openings.
simple enough, give me an extra week in January over November
ETA: and I'd venture to say 75-80% of the people in Lake Bouef opening day might hunt a total of 5 days during the season
This post was edited on 9/23/15 at 10:13 am
Posted on 9/23/15 at 10:15 am to mylsuhat
quote:
while true it is a horrible reasoning for keeping it the way it is simple enough, give me an extra week in January over November ETA: and I'd venture to say 75-80% of the people in Lake Bouef opening day might hunt a total of 5 days during the season
i'd take an extra week in January, but i'm more talking about keep the zones how they are, not the dates. I usually make coot shoot then hunt on the WMA the rest of the season so it doesn't make me any difference
but that 5 day meat haul is enough to last the year
Posted on 9/24/15 at 6:57 am to Da Hammer
bump for updated post
Posted on 9/24/15 at 7:09 am to Da Hammer
nice job Hammer...
Posted on 9/24/15 at 7:42 am to maisweh
I agree with keeping the zones the way they are. I can hunt on the lease opening day in the coastal zone and party on the opening day in Lake Bouef. I just don't like the opening day on the 7th of November.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 7:54 am to CootKilla
quote:
I agree with keeping the zones the way they are. I can hunt on the lease opening day in the coastal zone and party on the opening day in Lake Bouef. I just don't like the opening day on the 7th of November
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:03 am to maisweh
So the point you all are missing is that many like the current zones. However SW la according to hunter feedback likes the early opener AND MORE IMPORTANTLY there are two commissioners from that area that want the early opener. If the coastal zone stays in its current form it WILL open early. The only way we will get a later opening is to get out of the same zone as SW LA.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:31 am to Da Hammer
I wouldn't have believed it given the public comment from last year and the outrage from the Commission's decision to set the season earlier this year ...... but only 7 people attended the public meeting, and 2 of those came very late.
Da Hammer articulated concerns over season dates with great understanding of the issues surrounding changing the zone boundaries and acknowledging the political difficulties with current Commission membership, as did one other attendee. Another group offered up an alternative that involved merging the West and East Zones and splitting SW and SE Louisiana into zones. I doubt such a change would fly on such a short time-frame. Something like that would require months of consideration and review.
Two of the 7 attendees expressed view expressed above; keep the existing zone boundary because it allows expanded opportunity in the New Orleans area to hunt >1 zone, which this year allows 14 extra hunt days.
Da Hammer articulated concerns over season dates with great understanding of the issues surrounding changing the zone boundaries and acknowledging the political difficulties with current Commission membership, as did one other attendee. Another group offered up an alternative that involved merging the West and East Zones and splitting SW and SE Louisiana into zones. I doubt such a change would fly on such a short time-frame. Something like that would require months of consideration and review.
Two of the 7 attendees expressed view expressed above; keep the existing zone boundary because it allows expanded opportunity in the New Orleans area to hunt >1 zone, which this year allows 14 extra hunt days.
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:34 am to Lreynolds
How are thrse meetings advertised? I did not hear of this one taking place
Probably get better turnout if it had beer and a raffle
Probably get better turnout if it had beer and a raffle
Posted on 9/24/15 at 8:45 am to Lreynolds
is there some type of law where we could only have 3 zones? could there somehow be 4? keep west and east how they are, and just split the coastal into SE and SW?
Posted on 9/24/15 at 9:01 am to maisweh
The only available options are one statewide season two zones or three zones there are no other alternatives we must pick one of those options. As you can see it's not so simple as change the dates and keep the song change the zones around it's just not a simple fix to please everyone. I am not sure what the best answer is but I can tell you I have great dislike of a Nov 7 opening date in SE LA.
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