re: Private vs public water in tidal navigable waterways

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Dock Holiday

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You know I keep seeing these cases, and other similar ones, being referenced when this subject comes up. I don't necessarily disagree with any of it, I just feel that's a wasted effort. It seems like it only accomplishes a discussion in semantics.

I would rather see a stance taken that draws on emotions and philosophy. William Forster Lloyd wrote the Tragedy of the Commons and it's an excellent essay that pertains to our situation but I never see it brought up when discussion the marsh. It's possible for everyone to exist side by side. Read Elinor Ostrom, get an understanding for what it means to coexist.

You guys at LASC can win, but I'm skeptical if you can win by demanding unregulated and unabated access to all tidal waterways.

I am going to steal an idea from a close friend and share it.. Don't even bother with public meetings rightnow. Start an add campaign. Save that tshirt and sticker money and advertise that 80%-ish of all the marsh is inaccessible to the people who are funding it's protection. Use sportsmens paradise against itself. Point out the absurdity of the 1812 maps. Hammer the point home that access is good and by protecting our access we are preserving our history.

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I'd support this... it would keep all the out of towners away and not clog the launch

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Which in turn would decrease the number of people "trespassing"

The less Florida and Texas license plates at the ramp, the better.

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But the dude that sat in line for 15 minutes in his truck then proceeded to prep the boat AFTER back down the ramp.

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F250 with a high dollar blue wave or blazer bay or xpress?

So in this instance any land that was lost due to erosion since 1812 is now going to be public?

The landowner will stop paying taxes on that land?

And if the land somehow builds back up the landowner no longer owns it?

Sounds like communism

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So in this instance any land that was lost due to erosion since 1812 is now going to be public?

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I never said that.

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The landowner will stop paying taxes on that land?

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I'm not really sure what you're asking.

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And if the land somehow builds back up the landowner no longer owns it?

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Did the land owner fund the restoration? If no, then no. If yes, then yes.

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Sounds like communism

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I believe it would be Marxism. He wrote in 1848 about the abolishment of all private property. This is obviously not something I am in favor.


What are your feelings on the 14th amendment and how it pertains to eminent domain. What about the Midnight Forest in March of 1907?

I am not getting bogged down in this argument, but just one question. What is the LASC?

Deflection. Nice