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Posted on 6/4/23 at 1:56 pm to turkish
Genesis 5 (what my mx5400 can lift on the back) is heavier than the comparable products that are priced about the same. And I want the Goliath crimper.
I’m on a list to get the Saya 507 in July, but I’m probably gonna cancel that and get the Genesis….the resale is incredible. If I don’t like it I can sell it quick and swap. But I’m going to trust Mr Grant here.
Great thread though. I’ll be cutting though millet
I’m on a list to get the Saya 507 in July, but I’m probably gonna cancel that and get the Genesis….the resale is incredible. If I don’t like it I can sell it quick and swap. But I’m going to trust Mr Grant here.
Great thread though. I’ll be cutting though millet
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:12 pm to The Levee
Got it. I just started watching Grant Woods on YT this weekend. Good timing on this.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 2:14 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Nice! Gotta go all in
I have 10 acres of food plots and the goal is to produce 60k lbs of food year round without the corn and protein pellets! It’s worth a shot!
Initial investment of about $17k in the two implements would result in cutting labor in half, not relying on rain as much, cutting fuel in half, not using herbicides at all, not using fertilizer.
You’re down to around $200/acre to plant twice a year!
I have 10 acres of food plots and the goal is to produce 60k lbs of food year round without the corn and protein pellets! It’s worth a shot!
Initial investment of about $17k in the two implements would result in cutting labor in half, not relying on rain as much, cutting fuel in half, not using herbicides at all, not using fertilizer.
You’re down to around $200/acre to plant twice a year!
This post was edited on 6/4/23 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 6/4/23 at 3:15 pm to The Levee
Hinted up there in the 70s, how are the Deer, did you harvest some good this yesr
Posted on 6/4/23 at 3:24 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Man, I’m sorry. It’s habitat-talk.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 3:39 pm to namvet6566
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namvet6566
Thank you for your service. My dad was a Vietnam veteran. He was there in 66-68.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 5:19 pm to The Levee
Have you listened to Drop Tine Podcast. He focuses on soil health and the Haney soil test.
I’m personally working on native habitat restoration. It’s possible to get 1500-2000 per acre of food production with high protein yields depending on the weeds.
Look up crude protein from Partridge Pea, pokeweed, and ragweed. Soil disturbance in the fall/winter help these weeds to germinate if they are in the seed bank. Fire also helps it.
The deer will absolutely tear them up and best of all, they are free. They do not require fertilizer will come back yearly because they re seed themselves.
3 years ago, we planted soybeans and missed seeding a section. The soybeans came up and the deer hammered them. The 20 ft section beside the soybeans grew up heavy in ragweed. It was as heavily eaten as the soybeans were. One was free and one was not.
I’m personally working on native habitat restoration. It’s possible to get 1500-2000 per acre of food production with high protein yields depending on the weeds.
Look up crude protein from Partridge Pea, pokeweed, and ragweed. Soil disturbance in the fall/winter help these weeds to germinate if they are in the seed bank. Fire also helps it.
The deer will absolutely tear them up and best of all, they are free. They do not require fertilizer will come back yearly because they re seed themselves.
3 years ago, we planted soybeans and missed seeding a section. The soybeans came up and the deer hammered them. The 20 ft section beside the soybeans grew up heavy in ragweed. It was as heavily eaten as the soybeans were. One was free and one was not.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 5:50 pm to namvet6566
We kill some big deer. Antlers aren’t nearly what I want but the deer are eating plenty of acorns.
Last season was leaner. But we still killed 10 does and a buck on 600 acres.
Actively trying to improve.
Last season was leaner. But we still killed 10 does and a buck on 600 acres.
Actively trying to improve.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 5:51 pm to Shabath227
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years ago, we planted soybeans and missed seeding a section. The soybeans came up and the deer hammered them. The 20 ft section beside the soybeans grew up heavy in ragweed. It was as heavily eaten as the soybeans were. One was free and one was not.
Deer love variety, but the nutritional value of soybeans is unmatched.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:03 pm to pdubya76
Your Dad alive………There only a third of us alive
If he is give him my thanks
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:11 pm to namvet6566
No sir…he passed away in 2010.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 6:19 pm to Shabath227
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Have you listened to Drop Tine Podcast. He focuses on soil health and the Haney soil test.
Definitely checking this out! Thanks!
Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:31 pm to pdubya76
My American history teacher/defensive backs coach in High school spent 4 years in Nam and told us a lot of the hell they went through! It sucks what those men went through but they are TRUE HEROS! Much Honor to your Father and the fight that was within him!
Posted on 6/4/23 at 7:51 pm to The Levee
Land and Legeacy is one that talks about native regeneration.
Relisten to the MSU podcast about the 10 year study of unlocking genetic potential.
What happens in January, February, late July, August and September makes all the difference on antler size/genetic potential.
Body weight in January/February for all deer. Late July through September is for the does feeding the fawns.
It takes three generations to unlock the potential.
Here is my testimony: in 2019 I killed a 185 inch deer in southern Missouri (ozarks) that scored 178 3/8 inches because of three broken kickers. In 2002 when my Dad bought the property, we didn’t see a deer in 7 days of hunting. It was 4 years before we killed a deer and almost 10 before we killed a decent deer.
We started cutting trees to open sunlight to the ground, and the neighbor burned the property for us yearly (property feuded). Native vegetation with high protein yield provided nutrition that allowed for excellerated growth. Since 2016, we have had multiple 150 plus inch deer on camera every year.
We plant 4-6 acres per year and mostly just fall plots.
Soybeans don’t start producing until June and much of the nutrition is needed from March through May. Where does that come from? Native landscaping is where it comes from.
Do you have enough woody browse to put weight on the deer in February and March? Did you put fire on the ground in June/July to help the herd in September?
This doesn’t cost anything except work.
Relisten to the MSU podcast about the 10 year study of unlocking genetic potential.
What happens in January, February, late July, August and September makes all the difference on antler size/genetic potential.
Body weight in January/February for all deer. Late July through September is for the does feeding the fawns.
It takes three generations to unlock the potential.
Here is my testimony: in 2019 I killed a 185 inch deer in southern Missouri (ozarks) that scored 178 3/8 inches because of three broken kickers. In 2002 when my Dad bought the property, we didn’t see a deer in 7 days of hunting. It was 4 years before we killed a deer and almost 10 before we killed a decent deer.
We started cutting trees to open sunlight to the ground, and the neighbor burned the property for us yearly (property feuded). Native vegetation with high protein yield provided nutrition that allowed for excellerated growth. Since 2016, we have had multiple 150 plus inch deer on camera every year.
We plant 4-6 acres per year and mostly just fall plots.
Soybeans don’t start producing until June and much of the nutrition is needed from March through May. Where does that come from? Native landscaping is where it comes from.
Do you have enough woody browse to put weight on the deer in February and March? Did you put fire on the ground in June/July to help the herd in September?
This doesn’t cost anything except work.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 9:45 pm to Shabath227
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Read this. Look at crude protein level’s compared to soybeans. I’ll take 80 percent for free every day of the week!
I’m 100% on board with this. We are literally logging 300 acres and doing TSI right now. We burned 200 acres last year and will burn 200 more when logging is done and the timing is right.
I’m just adding MORE nutrition. It will cost me an initial investment for sure, but I will quickly increase my herd’s health and attract more deer.
I’m not afraid to shoot a pile of does either. We have doe weekends in November and early December. No bucks to be shot unless you can hang on the wall next to the others in the camp.
Hell, I’m probably going to plant plots this fall that will not even be hunted.
Posted on 6/4/23 at 11:00 pm to The Levee
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What drill and how deep were you going? Did you use herbicide first?
We have the Tar River /Saya. Tried without herbicide first, but used a custom built crimper. The depth varied based on the moisture in the soil per each plot. We didn’t make close adjustments for each plot based on this, which I think was the most important factor for the spotty results. This time we used herbicide, then control broadcast with the drill. Just rained some today, and more in the forecast this week. Should see some germination by next week.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:12 am to Semper Gumby
Couple questions for ya
505 or 507 Saya?
Where did you get the crimper and what did it run you?
Did you plant a seed mixture or monoculture?
505 or 507 Saya?
Where did you get the crimper and what did it run you?
Did you plant a seed mixture or monoculture?
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