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Outboard Motor Compression Test Question

Posted on 10/7/15 at 6:34 pm
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 6:34 pm
I had a 2 stroke motor look over by a mechanic today as I am looking at buying the boat its on. Anyways, he said the compression test came back great. He sent me over the numbers and on the 3 cylinders it was 126 psi, 123 psi, and 124 psi. I know it's best that the numbers are close as that means there is even wear on the motor. I always heard over 130 psi is what you want. Is that true?
Posted by diplip
the Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 6:52 pm to
you want them to be within 10% of each other.

Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 7:06 pm to
Just depends on the engine, but you're good to go with those numbers
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6391 posts
Posted on 10/7/15 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

Just depends on the engine, but you're good to go with those numbers


It's a Yammer Hammer 90 2 stroke 2008 less than 200 hrs
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 7:38 pm to
What I meant is that each engine has a different compression ratio. If you can find the specs, that would be nice, but with them all that close, I wouldn't worry at all
Posted by 300HOGSLAYER
south of I10
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 7:57 pm to
The key on a 2 stroke is how fast it builds compression(how many compression pulses did it take to get those readings), even with slightly worn rings you can crank the hell out of it and get some what decent readings.
Posted by cdaniel76
Covington, LA
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:28 pm to
The Yammy 90 in had on my boat had a brand new powerhead on it when I got the motor. When I sold the whole rig 3 years later it had maybe 20 hours on it and I had compression readings of 129, 129 & 128.

I'd say those #s at 200 hours are excellent!
This post was edited on 10/7/15 at 10:30 pm
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/7/15 at 10:59 pm to
as the others say, what you want is not a lot of variance between the numbers...and yours are pretty close together...

total pressure is really dependent on a lot of factors that don't predict how good or bad the engine is (i.e. whether he put oil in the cylinders before the test, how fast the engine spun over, etc.)....
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 6:31 am to
quote:

The key on a 2 stroke is how fast it builds compression(how many compression pulses did it take to get those readings), even with slightly worn rings you can crank the hell out of it and get some what decent readings.


This and if oil was used to cheat the numbers.
Posted by tipup
Member since Sep 2005
1649 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 7:01 am to
The 70/90 Yamaha 2-stroke is probably one of the best outboards made.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 7:29 am to
I had an 07 model like that and it was a great motor. Those numbers should make you feel good. Some people say you need a leak down test, not a compression test, but I've only done compression.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 8:29 am to
Compression tests will vary from one tool to another, sometimes 15 psi or better. I've taken two brand new in the box snap on compression testing tools and put them on my yamaha, one tool tested nearly 20 psi lower than the other. The harbor freight tool registered 120 psi but the snap on tools were 110 and ~90.

What you are looking for with a compression tester is consistency with the numbers. If you are testing on a cold motor and your numbers are low but even, that's not necessarily a sign of anything unless you know your tool consistently registers high.

Leak down test are for 4 strokes. They do not apply here.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 8:32 am to
quote:

Leak down test are for 4 strokes. They do not apply here.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 8:41 am to
To leak down test a 2 stroke the piston rings need to be above the exhaust ports. I would NOT use this test on a two stroke. It could be done but you run a risk of blowing out the crankshaft seals if the piston is not positioned just right and there is no advantage over a Crankcase Compression Test.


I'm not saying you can't leak test a 2 stroke, because you certainly can. Two strokes use the crankcase vacuum created from the piston to pull the charge into the crankcase and the opposite stroke of the piston pressurizes the charge, pushing it into the intake ports and up to the combustion chamber. There are times when a leak test needs to be done it just requires a lot more than putting the tool in the spark plug hole. You should also never put much pressure, it's something like 6 or 8 psi max. If you are running lean from drawing extra air you should check for leaks at cylinder head, cylinder base, intake manifolds, and crankshaft seals. To do this carburetors and exhaust manifolds need to come off. You have to have all kinds of plugs for different ports, it's a real pain in the arse.
This post was edited on 10/8/15 at 8:58 am
Posted by tipup
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 9:55 am to
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