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re: Official AR-15 thread

Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:01 pm to
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Those rails cost almost as much as the rifle.


you were gifted the rifle so you can't use that excuse.


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And they appear to be free float, not drop in.


yes, that is true. my apologies.

Monstrum makes one but it's 10.5".

https://monstrumtactical.com/ar-15-quad-rail-extended-drop-in-fsp-cutout/
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:11 pm to
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RIS III 


I've got my last build all worked out, now I'm already looking at the next purchase. Built my first 2 AR's and thi king if just buying the next to compare the "ownership experience". The DD4 RIII 14" pin & welded is what I'm leaning to right now. That or the Geissele Super Duty. But if I'm spending that much, I want the ambi features on the RIII
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:11 pm to
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you were gifted the rifle so you can't use that excuse.



I figured I'd still be a cheap arse about it

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Monstrum makes one but it's 10.5".


How is the Monstrum different than the ones I posted?
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:37 pm to
it's the same cheap crap as you posted.

i'm sure either of them will be fine for range use.

i honestly would splurge since you didn't actually pay for the rifle itself, but that's just one man's opinion. if you've never messed with ARs before, it'd be a good practice do take down the barrel and add a freefloat option.

but that's going to require additional tools:

barrel wrench, punches, etc.


Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:38 pm to
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if you've never messed with ARs before, it'd be a good practice do take down the barrel and add a freefloat option.

but that's going to require additional tools:

barrel wrench, punches, etc.


Yeah. I'm not going through all that.
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35932 posts
Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:56 pm to
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Yeah. I'm not going through all that.



you will eventually.


that's how it will starts.


add a drop in rail.

realize it's not good enough.

buy a new free float option.

then think "well, if i have the barrel out, might as well get a new barrel as well."

then you're snowballing into bigger and better things.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 3:59 pm to
Baby steps, baw. Baby steps.
Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 4:46 pm to
Get yourself a 4 inch vise and tool stand from Harbor Freight, great for torquing barrels.
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 5/20/24 at 5:59 pm to
This is my life
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:40 am to
Ok. So Iooked into changing out the D ring for a barrel nut, removing the A2 site, and replacing the gas block. It doesn't look to difficult, but I imagine its much harder than what this video is showing. It may be something I look to do in the future.

Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 8:57 am to
Hardest thing in that video is getting those tapered front sight post pins out. I've never seen them come out that easy. Everything else really is that simple, like anything having the right tools make a huge difference.
Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:24 am to
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ut I imagine its much harder than what this video is showing


Didn't get to watch the video since I'm at work. But it's definitely not hard at all. Absolute hardest part is driving roll pins when building up the lower. And that's not hard, it's just annoying and risks scratching up the lower. The upper stuff you are talking about doing is easy. People talk about aligning the gas block as being difficult, but I've never found it difficult (have had issues tuning, but nothing to do with alignment of the gasblock itself)

As a few have said, it can get addicting (granted I have an obsessive personality). I literally bought a upper receiver vice block and a cheap armorer's wrench for like $25 or $30 total. Then go to auto zone to use their free tool loaner program to get the torque wrench. Outside of that it's allen wrenches and cheap punches I already had for cleaning handguns. Since early March, I've built 2 guns from scratch, and already have plans for the next gun. Too many cool things to put on the gun and you can't put them all on one gun, so you need more!!!
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 9:39 am to
I should just get you to do it for me.
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:17 am to
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I should just get you to do it for me.
No, you're going to become an amateur gunsmith like the rest of us, and do it yourself. This is the way


In all honesty, if you do it yourself and realize how easy it is, the addiction cranks up a couple notches. You've been warned
Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35932 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 11:39 am to
quote:

I imagine its much harder than what this video is showing.


if you can turn a wrench and hammer a nail, you can replace a handguard and barrel.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:58 pm to
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In all honesty, if you do it yourself and realize how easy it is, the addiction cranks up a couple notches. You've been warned



That's my fear. I have enough hobbies/addictions to take up my time. Not sure if I should add another. What's great is that I work at a place with a shop that has almost every tool I would need to accomplish this.

Really all I would need is the vice block, the pin block, and the armorer's tool. Plus the hardware for the rifle itself, of course.

Here's another guy that makes it look easy

Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:18 pm to
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. So Iooked into changing out the D ring for a barrel nut, removing the A2 site, and replacing the gas block


Better have a good vice, blocks, a good torque wrench, a good set of roll pin punches, blue lochtite, grease and an armorers wrench, and a dead blow hammer, plus a nylon or brass hammer.

If you have those items, you can do it relatively easily. It's still a bitch to get the D-ring off, though, unless you have the D-ring tool, but it's not a necessity.

Honestly, I'd just look into a Troy free float handguard that uses the same barrel nut. That's the hardest part about removing a traditional M4 nut setup.
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:39 pm to
Tell me about Binary triggers...

Would they be better for stalking hogs at night with a thermal? We try to get within 50 yards of a sounder....no tripod or anything

I already have a Radian ambi safety...would I have to swap that whole system out?

Whats the best brands and I've seen some stuff about the Echo's...are they comparable to the Franklins?

Going on this cheap PSA gun

Posted by Jon A thon
Member since May 2019
1700 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:43 pm to
I've gone too many days without buying something. Just have iron sights on my first build which was a budget build. Got a 5x spitfire prism from Vortex and a Vortex micro red dot to mount piggy back. Overall setup is $500. It's a pretty light gun and may try to do some run and gun competitions next year with it. Looks like fun.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22070 posts
Posted on 5/21/24 at 2:29 pm to
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Hardest thing in that video is getting those tapered front sight post pins out. I've never seen them come out that easy.


For hobbyists I’d bet 50% of those end up getting dremeled. They’re not fun.
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