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OB loggers or timber folks
Posted on 4/6/16 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 5:44 pm
I'm re-working a pond and have about 15-20 BIG pines, one big red oak and some gums that need to come out. I need to take out trees and stumps.
I've started looking for someone to come take them out in exchange for the timber but I'm not sure if the timber is worth way more
Idealy Id like someone to come knock the trees down taking roots and all up then sell the timber off of it instead of someone cutting trees then another coming in and removing stumps.
Actually, Id like to get my own skid steer and do it myself but doubt there is enough there in timber to cover the cost of buying one
I've started looking for someone to come take them out in exchange for the timber but I'm not sure if the timber is worth way more
Idealy Id like someone to come knock the trees down taking roots and all up then sell the timber off of it instead of someone cutting trees then another coming in and removing stumps.
Actually, Id like to get my own skid steer and do it myself but doubt there is enough there in timber to cover the cost of buying one
Posted on 4/6/16 at 5:51 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
You should take off your apron, crank up the Stihl, and get some dynamite.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 5:51 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
It sounds like about one load of grade pine logs. Maybe 2 if they are true Magnums. Rule of thumb is that it costs $1000 to move a logger's equipment to a tract.
In short, no one will pay you for them. And I doubt you can trade the timber for their removal. Unless they are stave quality White Oak, or Black Walnut or something, most loggers will need a min of 5-10 acres to come set up and go to work.
In short, no one will pay you for them. And I doubt you can trade the timber for their removal. Unless they are stave quality White Oak, or Black Walnut or something, most loggers will need a min of 5-10 acres to come set up and go to work.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 6:04 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
It's going to be hard to find a logging company small enough to move on a tract for one load. Your best bet is to find someone cutting timber close to your place and see if they can come cut them for you, but I wouldn't expect any money from it. How many gum trees are there?
Posted on 4/6/16 at 6:07 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
See if you can find someone with a portable mill. You might be able to swap half of the lumber in exchange for him milling it for you if it is easy to get to.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 6:07 pm to tenfoe
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See if you can find someone with a portable mill.
Fishfinder has a mill, not sure if it is still portable
Posted on 4/6/16 at 6:17 pm to Winnpt
I don't need a logging crew. Just someone to come lay some trees over and keep the wood in exchange for getting the stumps up.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 6:52 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Just find a local guy with a dozer or excavator to come in and knock them down. Shouldn't take more than a couple of hours and pay them. Another option may be to contact the NRCS. They may pay to have someone come in and rework the pond, and take out the trees you want depending on how much land you have. That's what we are doing.
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 7:45 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
That'll be hard to find. You'll end up paying.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 9:02 pm to biohzrd
That's actually what we are doing. I met with the local guy today and we shot some measurment and levels. The pond levee will have a 3/1 grade and I have about 50 yards of trees that have to come out to do the levee how they want.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 9:03 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Oh! Well heck, since u put it that way, just go out there n cut em down yourself then rent an excavator to dig stumps up yourself. That's gonna be the only way u don't have to pay out.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 9:09 pm to Winnpt
Why cannt u just leave the stumps bass love stumps.. Put an ad on la sportsman someone will more than likely want the the lumber
This post was edited on 4/6/16 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 4/6/16 at 9:18 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Who the frick downvotes my perfectly logical suggestion? I have a friend with a sawmill who has done that for folks in exchange for lumber. Must be someone I pissed off in a snake thread.
I'll bet someone $100 I can find someone within 48 hrs to come mill it for a portion of the lumber if you have a tractor to move the logs around.
I'll bet someone $100 I can find someone within 48 hrs to come mill it for a portion of the lumber if you have a tractor to move the logs around.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 9:24 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Where are you located?
That would be a big job for a skid steer. Better off renting an excavator to handle the job. In addition to renting the excavator, buy a large stihl with a 20" bar and get after it.
That would be a big job for a skid steer. Better off renting an excavator to handle the job. In addition to renting the excavator, buy a large stihl with a 20" bar and get after it.
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:26 pm to WPsportsman
A lot of the trees are growing on the existing levee and on the back side of it. They have to be cleared and stumps removed for the new levee to go in place. Can't just cut the trees and bury them
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:28 pm to tenfoe
That's actually a good idea and I know someone with a portable mill but they usually just go after cypress but may come get the pine and oak. Will still have to pay someone with an excavator to remove stumps. My pond guy can do it but that will add cost to his bid. Was hoping someone would come remove stumps on exchange for the trees
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:30 pm to Manchac Man
The skid steer would be for moving and loading logs on a trailer. I have an 80hp tractor but the front end loader won't lift them. Would have to build a ramp to pull / push them up on the flatbed. Still need a way to remove stumps
Posted on 4/6/16 at 11:39 pm to tenfoe
I have a catch pen / corral needing rebuilding. I'll need some heavy duty, true 2x6's for this. Would love to get these trees cut and milled for that but haven't looked into how to treat the rough cut pine board so they won't roy so easily
Posted on 4/7/16 at 5:46 am to FelicianaTigerfan
First off, my mill is not portable yet. A small wack of logs like that, it would cost some one way to much to move equipment in.
Cutting on half, that is not going to happen with pine. There is a shite load of pine on the market due to a big beetle kill going on now.
Cost of having a sawmill to come in is around $60 an hour to saw, plus you have to have equipment on hand to move the logs close to the mill and supply labor hands to off load lumber as it is sawed. If not, that price per hour goes way up.
Treating milled pine. Mix one gallon of roofing tar with about 1/2 gallon of diesel and paint that on. Do not get any on you or it will burn.
If you fell the trees and stack them up, you might be able to sell them, but you will still need a way to load them up. Pine logs, you have to saw tem kind of fast due to blue staining and bugs that will eat into them till the logs start drying out some.
As far as log size. One measures 3' up from the ground, then measure the diameter of the tree. That will give you the butt log size.
Over all, it might be cheaper to hire a dozer for a day to up the trees. A good operator can fell those trees along with the root balls all in one shot. Heck, a 450 can do it, but it will be hard on it.
Cutting on half, that is not going to happen with pine. There is a shite load of pine on the market due to a big beetle kill going on now.
Cost of having a sawmill to come in is around $60 an hour to saw, plus you have to have equipment on hand to move the logs close to the mill and supply labor hands to off load lumber as it is sawed. If not, that price per hour goes way up.
Treating milled pine. Mix one gallon of roofing tar with about 1/2 gallon of diesel and paint that on. Do not get any on you or it will burn.
If you fell the trees and stack them up, you might be able to sell them, but you will still need a way to load them up. Pine logs, you have to saw tem kind of fast due to blue staining and bugs that will eat into them till the logs start drying out some.
As far as log size. One measures 3' up from the ground, then measure the diameter of the tree. That will give you the butt log size.
Over all, it might be cheaper to hire a dozer for a day to up the trees. A good operator can fell those trees along with the root balls all in one shot. Heck, a 450 can do it, but it will be hard on it.
Posted on 4/7/16 at 9:28 am to fishfighter
From the research I've done, I'd put an add for free trees and call some mills to see if they'll cut your trees for free for the wood. Then I'd price the dozed work once that's done. I hear what you are saying, but I don't think it's enough work to make it worth it to a business.
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