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lime and fertilizer for grass

Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:32 am
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:32 am
i tore up my front yard pretty good putting in my new driveway. i got everything leveled and hydroseeded. they hydroseed guy told me i needed to get my PH way down with lime and to fertilize with a 13-13-13 or 16-16-16 once i saw good growth. part of the yard is ready for a first mow and i would like to know what order to do these things. mow>lime>fertilize? can i fertilize and lime at the same time? thanks in advance
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
18770 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:45 am to
LSU Ag Center says:

quote:

The only fertilizer that should be applied in the fall is potash. Muriate of potash, 0-0-60, may be applied in September or October to provide increased cold tolerance. Apply at a rate of 1-2 pounds per 1000 square feet. For extra color on fall turf, apply a foliar iron spray. This will help extend greenness into fall.

Fall is the best time to get your soil tested by the LSU AgCenter. Soil testing is the first step to a beautiful lawn and is the best way to determine exactly what your lawn needs to become thick and healthy next spring. Soil samples should be 4 to 6 inches deep as well as a composite of samples collected from several locations in the lawn. Mix this well and take a pint to your local extension office.

Results will be sent to your home address and/or emailed in about two weeks. Sample results may indicate that lime is needed to increase soil pH. Fall/winter is the best time to apply lime since it takes several months to react with soil and adjust to proper pH.
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Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11437 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:20 am to
You need to take some soil samples to see exactly what you need instead of just throwing some shite out there. And I'd definitely mow first, then lime and fertilize, and wait until a rain incorporates it before mowing again, otherwise it will be a lime dust disaster plus you'll be slinging fertilizer everywhere.
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
13480 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:58 am to
Unless I'm wrong you need to lime first. Fertilizer won't do shite if your ph is off. I used the cheap test kit at lowes which told me how acidic my soil was. I then added a shite load of lime and waited a couple weeks, then I fertilized. Worked for me when I was trying to resurrect my yard.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

And I'd definitely mow first, then lime and fertilize,
I prefer to fertilize then mow. Clippings can keep granules from reaching ground.
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:17 pm to
10-4.

I may end up having to have some patches resprayed anyway. So much rain right after the spray. I lost a bit of seed. This morning was the first time I turned the sprinklers on in weeks. I will definitely do some more work later in the year. I'm just trying to get this stuff to grow ASAP so I can quit shoveling dirt off my side of the street.
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
9409 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 2:20 pm to
quote:

they hydroseed guy told me i needed to get my PH way down with lime and to fertilize with a 13-13-13 or 16-16-16 once i saw good growth.


Good thing your hydroseed guy is not your soil fertility guy because he doesn't know $&@! about fertility. Lime does not lower soil pH.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 5:43 pm to


Probably a case of OP misspeaking.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20461 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 7:34 pm to
As said, if your ph isn't right then the grass/ plants won't suck in the fertilizer. Literally, so it's almost use less.

Also, you generally don't want apply nitrogen in the fall because it aids growth when your grass is trying to slow down and prepare for winter. It does more bad than good. As far as new grass though, I'm not sure what your best thing to do is.

Def get a soil test and if you go through the Ag college they usually tell you what to add for specific species. All states have a college that provides that for dirt cheap as far as I know.
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 9/5/17 at 9:30 am to
quote:


Good thing your hydroseed guy is not your soil fertility guy because he doesn't know $&@! about fertility. Lime does not lower soil pH.
yeah, maybe he said bring it up? shite I don't know. I'm no botanist, chemist or geologist. I fix cars for a living.

Picked up a testkit from lowes this weekend so we'll see what i can figure out.
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