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re: Lawn and garden time!

Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:49 am to
Posted by thedice20
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 8:49 am to
Question:

My Tifway 419 is still pretty dormant. I used some vigoro weed and feed for bermuda lawns a few weeks ago, and it has done a fair job of killing the broad leaf stuff. It hasnt done shite for killing the annual blue grass/ purple flowery weeds that have popped up everywhere...

So, i have access to some MSMA. I was thinking about diluting it back a bit, and using a 2 gallon sprayer to hit the problem areas. Would anyone with some knowledge about Bermuda lawns like to chime in?

Please advise
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This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 8:50 am
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:08 am to
Simazine (pre-emergent) in late fall will keep it away. Now, use your MSMA at 48oz/acre. Metsulfuron may work as well, but I'd read all labels to be sure.

Even when I use MSMA for spot-treatments, its usually adds up to 10-15000 sq feet. In a two gallon sprayer, calibrating it correctly will be very important to getting your dilution to be strong enough to kill the poa without stunting the Bermuda.
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 9:16 am
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:14 am to
About to get my mulch on this weekend, I think Im going to go red this year. Wife wants to stack the beds with flowers, but I like the bare mulch look (and less work )

The only problem weed I have is nutsedge, so I am going to hit it with some Image and try to stay on top of it.

Compadres came and trimmed boxwoods and all that shite last week, so that takes a good load of work off.

I need to topdress a few low spots and possibly throw down a few peices of sod to cover some areas.

Backyard needs some low spots hit with sand and a few peices of sod, and I need to blast that buttonweed.

Posted by thedice20
Member since May 1926
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:15 am to
So that MSMA wont burn my grass to hell?
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
5335 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:17 am to
MSMA is Bermuda grass' best friend - when used correctly
Posted by thedice20
Member since May 1926
Member since Aug 2008
7550 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:21 am to
quote:

The only problem weed I have is nutsedge, so I am going to hit it with some Image and try to stay on top of it.




Prayers sent.

That chit will survive the apocalypse.
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:24 am to
Dice gonna wake up to check progress and then



That sedge drives me nuts It is so relentless.
Posted by thedice20
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:26 am to
quote:

Dice gonna wake up to check progress and then



I am scared of doing that

My across the street neighbor did that2 years ago. His yard looked like it had melanoma.
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
5335 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:35 am to
Yeah, the harsh chemicals work best, but ya gotta be spot-on with your measures, calculations, and calibrations

If my fields turned out like that picture, they'd kick me to the curb with the quickness
You can always just let the poa run its course and burn out with the heat, then apply your simazine this fall and you'll be golden for next spring.
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 9:38 am
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:38 am to
Boot, do you drive a spray rig or spray by hand?
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:38 am to
I thought msma was banned?
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:43 am to
Dice is an outlaw...
Posted by thedice20
Member since May 1926
Member since Aug 2008
7550 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:51 am to
quote:

I thought msma was banned?



Maybe for your average plebeian US Citizen.
I know people in high places.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
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75703 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:51 am to
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
2986 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 9:55 am to
Got some topsoil last year loaded with Johnson grass. Hopefully I got it all.

We'll see soon enough.
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Got some topsoil last year loaded with Johnson grass


Ouch.

I get that pH balanced sand
Posted by bodean45
Ville Platte
Member since Oct 2007
1099 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:12 am to
quote:

So that MSMA wont burn my grass to hell?


Will MSMA have any negative effects on St. Aug yard?
Posted by bootlegger
Ponchatoula
Member since Dec 2012
5335 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 10:41 am to
I have a 250 gallon Honda powered rig w a 20' boom. I pull it with a Kubota 1140 RTV. MSMA isn't allowed in certain applications. Still legal for use on athletic turf. Im not sure about MSMA on St Aug.
This post was edited on 3/20/14 at 10:50 am
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15310 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Wife wants to stack the beds with flowers, but I like the bare mulch look (and less work )


Absolutely. Tell the ole lady she can be the one out there watering when it really starts to heat up. I tell ya something that is hardy and looks good. Lilly turf
Posted by RollTide MJ
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Nov 2007
9523 posts
Posted on 3/20/14 at 11:56 am to
Spent 15 hours in the yard last week getting leaves raked and disposed of along with cleaning leaves and gumballs out of the flower beds. Went to Lowe's with my wife to pick out some flowers and bushes we want to plant.

Pressured washed my back porch for repainting earlier this week so I just have to get some new paint picked out. Going to pressure wash the driveway this weekend weather permitting.

Other than that just waiting on the grass to grow a little bit so I can put a fresh cut and edging on it.
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