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Kayak fishing - private land?

Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:05 pm
Posted by jmorr34
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:05 pm
Recently there was an article about people catching specks in the grass beds in Lakeshore Estates in Slidell. Was thinking about trying up in there this weekend with the kayaks(if weather allows) but a friend said he was fishing from a canoe in there recently and they ran him off.

Are those waters private or is it free reign?

See screenshot below:

This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 6:09 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:22 pm to
I would say yes its probably private if its a subdivision canal system, especially if you are within sight of peoples yards
Posted by jmorr34
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 6:40 pm to
Here is the article LINK

I'm sure fishing along that wall would be acceptable. It's accessible from the lake.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 6:42 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 7:35 pm to
well 2 things, if you own a house in that area that would in most cases give you access rights "I would think" and maybe that guy owns a house there?

point #2 if the spot you fish is along someones boundry line, that "could" be considered as trespassing along their right of way even though you aren't "on" the property

I don't know, I do know, I feel as I think you do, that it should all be public access unless you pass through a fixed barrier to get there.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 7:36 pm
Posted by Muriel
third ward
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 7:46 pm to
I have fished that area from a kayak and boat before and I see folks fishing from boats there a lot. Never been a problem. The best spot in that whole area, though, is the dead end canal behind the apartments right next to Lakeshore. Have caught reds, specs, and bass there. You can even find jacks back there.
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 8:47 pm to
I've fished it from a kayak numerous times with no issue. I see guides and other powerboats in there. The canals are man made but I guess the main issue is where does the landowner's property line end? At the water or does it extend into the water? Are the canals "common" areas owned and controlled by the homeowners association?

Were the canals dedicated to public use like streets are?

Piqued my interest. I may look at the subdivision plat next time I'm at the courthouse.
This post was edited on 3/8/17 at 9:01 pm
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:17 pm to
*I know nothing about this area, just pulled it up on my boundary app.

If the lines are true, the property extends into the water (not sure why, if so, but im not a civil engineer)





Posted by TheCurmudgeon
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/8/17 at 9:22 pm to
Question for the OP: where did your buddy launch his canoe? If he just drove up onto an empty lot and unloaded his canoe there, of course he'd get run off.

I launch my kayak either at The Dock or Salt Bayou and make a long peddle to get there.
Posted by LSUengr
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Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:00 am to
quote:

If the lines are true, the property extends into the water (not sure why, if so, but im not a civil engineer)


I don't know anything about this area either, but I am a civil engineer. Typically, the property lines extend into the water to limit access behind lots and to limit maintenance requirements of the HOA. If the property line is in the water, then the homeowner is required to maintain the entire bank down to the water.
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/9/17 at 9:03 am to
Posted by zx24
Member since May 2014
462 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 11:18 am to
quote:

Question for the OP: where did your buddy launch his canoe? If he just drove up onto an empty lot and unloaded his canoe there, of course he'd get run off.

I launch my kayak either at The Dock or Salt Bayou and make a long peddle to get there.


I was thinking the same thing. I drove through there last year looking for a place to launch my kayak, but I couldn't find a spot that seemed like it would be legal to do so. I agree, that the long paddle is your best bet.
Posted by Muriel
third ward
Member since Dec 2016
444 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 12:52 pm to
the last couple times I've launched it was near the new dry dock storage kinda close to where they're building the new Blind Tiger. Never any issues and it's only a few hundred hard paddle.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5141 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 12:58 pm to
That's bull. It's navigable tidal water. I can float it, I can fish it

Right?!
Posted by Muriel
third ward
Member since Dec 2016
444 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:11 pm to
that is my thinking. As long as you're respectable and not right up on top of peoples' docks or boathouses I don't think you're going to run into any issues.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21896 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

If the lines are true, the property extends into the water (not sure why, if so, but im not a civil engineer)


I would think the property line extends a little ways into the water so that the owner can build their dock or boat slip on property they own.


ETA: Whats the name of that app you have there that shows property boundary lines?
This post was edited on 3/9/17 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Polar Pop
Member since Feb 2012
10748 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:33 pm to
The app is called "Hunt Stand". $11/yr and you get all boundary lines (street and satellite view) with owner and tract size.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21896 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 1:45 pm to
thanks!
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