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Issues with Boat hasn't been run in two plus years

Posted on 7/20/17 at 5:13 am
Posted by BullredsRus
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
754 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 5:13 am
I'm looking at a boat that the owner just doesn't use. It's been stored (indoors) for over two years. He says he's only used non ethanol gas and prob has close to a full tank sitting in it (60+ gallons). Should this be drained out completely and refilled? Also any other things to look closely at for a boat sitting that long.

Kept indoors at his shop and looks to be in great shape. He took it to mechanic and said it fired right up with good compression. My purchase will be contingent on a test ride. Just wondering if I should drain all that gas before the test ride. And like I said if you can recommend any other things to look for it is appreciated.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9148 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 5:50 am to
The seller's story sounds a little too perfect to me. Do you have any experience with boats?
Posted by BullredsRus
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
754 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 6:26 am to
A little. But I'm not all that mechanically inclined. My dad is though and he is buying it with me. We'll be on test run together.

Also it only has 55 hours on motor and for its age it's really low.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 6:31 am
Posted by DeepSouthSportsman
frick Bama
Member since Jul 2012
4635 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 6:51 am to
I would think the water pump would need to be replaced after sitting for two years
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
3092 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:19 am to
I would drain the gas if I bought it.

I'd also change all fluids / filters and the water pump as said above.

Run everything during the test drive - not just the motor. Make sure all of the electrical works, pumps, trim, dash, etc.
Posted by Redlos
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2005
1046 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:19 am to
2 or 4 stroke? What's the actual age and hp? Is there an oil/water separator? Need more info...

Posted by CootDisCootDat
St. Charles, The Community
Member since May 2014
1643 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:19 am to
Two year old gas? Ethanol or not, drain it out of the boat, store it in a drum, and use it here and there in a vehicle to not waste it. If it starts up fine and rides well on the test ride and you buy it, take it to a boat mechanic and have them service everything. A few hundred bucks getting it in tip top condition will save you the headache and frustration of having little things go out here and there down the line...which they will. They do on all boats. Mine was purchased brand new, will be two years old in September, and I already had to replace the on board charger.

quote:

boat sitting that long

Check the trailer tires...may be egged or cracked from non-use.

Posted by Timmayy
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:20 am to
That's the same scenario we got our boat. It was kept under a lift so no real sun damage but it was covered in some filth. A little fiberglass repair and changing out the temperature sensors and we have a boat.
2005 20 foot seafox that is beautiful and fishes well for only 9k

Your probably fixing to get a real good boat for a real good price if the story holds true.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 7:22 am
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
5761 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:23 am to
I would make sure I out a new fuel filter and if it has one separator on it before running it. Or as soon as you get it home change all of that.

I would also consider changing the fuel lines out. Another thing that goes bad sitting that long are batteries check their ability to function under a load if you have to change 2-4 of them that gets expensive quick.
Posted by Dock Holiday
Member since Sep 2015
1639 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:31 am to
The trailer hubs will likely need to be rebuilt. After a long tow the inner seals may start to leak due to drying out, check the inside of the rims.

The hydraulic steering may need to be rebuilt, after your test run check for oil residue in the splash well, it will be a slightly yellow oil and you may not be able to see it, but can tell it’s there by the residue in the splash well.

I would not run that boat without a fuel/water separator, or any boat for that matter. Ask him if it has one and when was the last time it’s been changed.

It’s his boat for now, and it’s his choice, but you may need to add an octane boost to gas that is 2 years old. I would feel better just draining it all and running it in my lawn equipment or a gallon or two in my vehicles over time. Filling with fresh gas, run the tank nearly dry, change all filters including any on the engine and the fuel/water separator.

Entire cooling system needs to be checked, insects love to find a home there, may need a complete rebuild of the water pump.

Lower unit oil should be fine, tilt the engine all the way up and remove the bottom drain plug. Be careful as oil will try to come out, just plug it with your finger. Look at the plug for shards of metal, a very small amount is normal, but bigger pieces or an excessive amount may mean there could be lower unit issues. The plug is slightly magnetized and metal will settle there, so do this before your test run.

Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7581 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:44 am to
quote:

I would drain the gas if I bought it.

I'd also change all fluids / filters and the water pump as said above.

Run everything during the test drive - not just the motor. Make sure all of the electrical works, pumps, trim, dash, etc.


All of this.

Im a little weary that it fired up no problem after two years of sitting with old gas. Id ask for the paperwork from the mechanic just to be sure.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:45 am to
If he said 2 years, it's probably closer to 4.

On the gas, it's so cheap right now I would not hesitate to drain it to avoid chance of way more expense from damage.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21932 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:12 am to
quote:

On the gas, it's so cheap right now I would not hesitate to drain it to avoid chance of way more expense from damage.


True I was thinking you could just add a can of sea-foam and octane boost and be good to go but a 60 gallon tank of gas would be about $150 bucks to refill with non-ethanol, in this case it would be worth it.

OP, if its a glass boat look for spider cracks in the gel coat, look at the wiring for cracks, open every hatch and look for cracks. If you could be a little more specific on the year and model of boat you would get better answers.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:18 am to
IF the story is true about the 2 years, IMO the gas will be fine if you add some STA-BIL to it. Like others have said...change the oil, the filters, probably the impeller, plugs, check all fittings and give the trailer a thorough looking over.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20478 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:29 am to
ID get a 55 gallon drum and drain the gas, it easily could be good but it's not worth risking until you get the motor running well. It's an easy variable to remove and in my experience bad gas can have a couple different symptoms so it's hard to absolutely blame gas sometimes.
Posted by Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
1891 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:37 am to
2 year old gas will have a varnish break down and I would not recommend using it in a carb engine. drain it before you run it.
Posted by BullredsRus
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
754 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:51 am to
Thanks for all the info here.

He is going to drain it and refill some prior to our test drive. I will def check everything out real good on test drive. All the electrical switches, trim tabs, trolling motor, bilge and wash down pumps, lights etc.

It is a 250 HP Yamaha with 55 hours. He is going to bring it to an engine place to get them to run that same test and give the printout with the hours and compression and all that stuff. We have agreed on a price but he did say that we could renegotiate if something big is noticed on test drive (or in engine reprt). The guy that gave him the 55 hours number was a guy his buddy told him to go to. But he didn't get any paperwork or anything. But he said he is calling around and everyone is two weeks out. So I said that's fine I would rather wait and make sure RD good to go. I'm hoping that when they run the engine and get that report it would tell them if any fuel filters/water separators need to be replaced. If not maybe I should just ask him to do that and I pay the bill when I pay for the boat by just tacking it on to sale price.

Seems like a really nice guy. And he isn't poor. He apparently has the type of money to buy a really expensive toy and just not use it. His barn/workshop was bad arse. Said once he got into his horses he pretty much quit using the boat.

Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12192 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:40 am to
I use my boat from February to the end of July.

I drain the fuel and refill with fresh gas every year.

The motor runs much better after I started doing this.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:16 am to
quote:

It is a 250 HP Yamaha with 55 hours.
55'hrs is nothing. Someone asked if it was a 2 or 4 stroke, which is it?

quote:

He is going to bring it to an engine place to get them to run that same test and give the printout with the hours and compression and all that stuff. We have agreed on a price but he say that we could renegotiate if something big is noticed on test drive (or in engine reprt).
Sounds like he's honest but con artists do, too. I'm probably being on the overly cautious side here but Inwould feel more comfortable bringing it to get this done by my guy.

If it's your first boat and you don't have or know a mechanic, maybe bring it to one recommended by a friend you trust who would have no dog in this hunt. Not sure what a mechanic would charge for compression test but evenif it costs you $150.00 it could save you thousands. And maybe he would split the cost or assume it if it comes back a no deal.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51806 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 2:49 pm to
A guy I recently bought a used boat from told me a similar story

Said it had 35 gal of non ethanol fuel in it. I took him at his word. I eliminated the oil injection and when I added more gas/oil to account for the elimination of the oil injection what I had was a gas that was

a) mixed at nearly twice the ratio it was supposed to be because it didn't have near the gas in it he said it did, and

b) gas that had a shite load of water in it because what little was in it had water in it

Needless to say I got to pump ask that shite out and clean the carbs. I'll never take a guy at his word like that again without hearing it run.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 2:51 pm
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