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Crappie condo weights
Posted on 11/7/23 at 6:22 am
Posted on 11/7/23 at 6:22 am
I have close to 100 oak and sweetgum trees about 15 - 20 feet tall with sizeable canopies that I need to clear off a lake lot and instead of taking them to a landfill I am thinking about making some crappie condos with them. I am not about to mix enough sacrete to sink that number of trees LOL and I would prefer not paying for half blocks. Looking for the most cost effective way to sink these trees. Any thoughts? In the past I have used concrete blocks but they are expensive as hell now...I have thought about collecting some rip rap off bridges LOL but that sounds like a helluva lot of work not to mention a good way to wind up in jail.
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 6:38 am to AwgustaDawg
Just hit the secrete with a hose a few times while still in the bag and let them cure as blocks.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 7:01 am to DownSouthDave
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ust hit the secrete with a hose a few times while still in the bag and let them cure as blocks.
I have thought about splitting the bags in half across the short side and standing them up and wetting them like you are talking about. 60 pound bag at Home depot for $3.98 so $1.99 per anchor. Thats probably about as cheep as I can get short of stealing the DOTs rip rap....and the concrete would be less work than the rip rap. could make them up, drag several of the trees behind the boat to the spot, tie the anchor to the root and a pool noodle to the top and let them sink. That will work. I'll have $400 in them with concrete and gas but they will cost close to that to toss in the landfill and I may catch a few fish out of them before they get found next spring....
Posted on 11/7/23 at 7:29 am to AwgustaDawg
Stick the trees in 5 gallon buckets and pour concrete in half way (so not too heavy).
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:04 am to AwgustaDawg
We use large sandbags. They are cheap. You don’t have to have tops standing straight up. We’ve probably had better luck with laying them on the side. A couple sandbags tied on the bottom and a coke bottle or pool noodle tied in the top to make one end stand up off bottom.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:13 am to AwgustaDawg
quote:I periodically make weights by buying cheap buckets and filling with concrete. Such an easy process and very clean to carry in truck or boat.
. I am not about to mix enough sacrete to sink that number of trees LOL and I would prefer not paying for half blocks.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:27 am to AwgustaDawg
They will sink on their own if they are green. Throw em in with an excavator and call it good.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:06 am to Quatrepot
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Stick the trees in 5 gallon buckets and pour concrete in half way (so not too heavy).
Not so heavy and the plastic is good on the boat finish BUT i would have to buy buckets and I am a cheap bastard LOL...back when I worked on construction sites the drywall finishers would almost buy your lunch if you would haul off 30 or so buckets but I ain't been on a job site in a LONG time...
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:13 am to mudcat tiger
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We use large sandbags. They are cheap. You don’t have to have tops standing straight up. We’ve probably had better luck with laying them on the side. A couple sandbags tied on the bottom and a coke bottle or pool noodle tied in the top to make one end stand up off bottom.
This is a COE lake, they ain't going to stand up no matter what because when they open the dam eerything leans down river. If they are poured in concrete they will eventually turn over. I anchor them with about a foot of rope. It allows them to "bend" when they are generating and then the pool noodle stands them more or less back up when the current slacks off. Also mostly hard clay bottoms even in 50 feet of water so buckets and the like will roll when they turn over and everyone of them will wind in the bottom of a creek or river channel eventually in 70 feet of water. Stripers and catfish love them in that depth but not crappie. I have caught some spotted bass in 50 feet of water though.
Sand bags are ideal but a lot of damed work. I have used them a bunch in the past and they do not move...I have a friend on a rescue dive team locally and he has videos of brush piles he and I set out 20+ years ago and the trees are mostly gone but the sand bags are still intact and appear to be exactly where they should be....I may go with sand bags, they are my first choice but they are a lot of work.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:18 am to Elblancodiablo
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They will sink on their own if they are green. Throw em in with an excavator and call it good.
They are green and will be until they are sunk...they will also last longer that way and will stay put. We sunk a bunch of red-oaks about 15 years ago that were about 25-30 foot tall and they had been cut about a year...they never stayed put and we were tying 4-500 pounds of concrete to them. I knew we were in trouble when we drug one of the down a boat ramp and the wind caught it about the time it started floating and it was running about 25 mph by the time we got the pontoon on plane and ran it down LOL...
I will no doubt toss some of them out just around the edge of the property. The water is only about 8 feet deep at the dock and it is 0 feet deep right now so I can just tote them out and stake them out but this lake is FULL of stripers and hybrids and they LOVE tree tops on flats in about 30 feet of water surrounded by 70 feet....they will be thick as cordwood in the right location. and those same trees will hold crappie almost year round except for spring when the damned things are easy to catch elsewhere.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 11:21 am to AwgustaDawg
Milk jugs with concrete
Posted on 11/7/23 at 7:40 pm to Purple Spoon
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Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:22 pm to AwgustaDawg
Tie them to a cinder block.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 9:51 pm to dstone12
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Tie them to a cinder block.
This is my method. I collect Christmas trees from neighbors and sink them in the local lake with a cinder block and nylon rope; I handsaw in grooves to the trunk to tie it off to.
OP just wants to make it complicated and brag about his new lake lot on Clarks Hill.
Last month he was on here wanting to build his own lumber mill for these trees to build a cabin.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 9:56 pm to deeprig9
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OP just wants to make it complicated and brag about his new lake lot on Clarks Hill. Last month he was on here wanting to build his own lumber mill for these trees to build a cabin.
Dude. Calm down.
Take the op for face value and suggest an idea or don’t.
You have too many axes to grind, here.
Posted on 11/7/23 at 10:15 pm to dstone12
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Take the op for face value
I know OP from his previous name here before he was banned, and I know him from a GA outdoor site before he was banned there, and it's a Tuesday and I've been drinking.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 1:32 am to AwgustaDawg
We use everything from milk jugs filled with rocks/concrete to cinder blocks.
They sell single hole cinder blocks that aren't that expensive, but per half block they likely weigh less than the milk jugs filled with concrete. (just saw on the website they weight 19lbs each so that's probably your best bet)
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They sell single hole cinder blocks that aren't that expensive, but per half block they likely weigh less than the milk jugs filled with concrete. (just saw on the website they weight 19lbs each so that's probably your best bet)
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This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 2:42 am
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:32 am to deeprig9
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This is my method. I collect Christmas trees from neighbors and sink them in the local lake with a cinder block and nylon rope; I handsaw in grooves to the trunk to tie it off to.
OP just wants to make it complicated and brag about his new lake lot on Clarks Hill.
Last month he was on here wanting to build his own lumber mill for these trees to build a cabin.
Thats the method I usually use but the number of blocks would be substantial.
By the way I have bought a portable small mill and Columbia county has agreed, in principle, to issue a permit to use breen timber in the framing of a shop. It is getting cooler and the time is right for clearing and the first step is to get rid of the smaller trees....and putting them in the lake seems like the best idea, just looking for the cheapest way to sink them. The number of and size trees is what makes it more complicated, easy to sink 15 - 20 xmas trees, its another thing altogether to sink 100 20 foot tall oak and sweetgum trees. They are to small to mill and to expensive to put in the landfill....
Posted on 11/8/23 at 6:34 am to John_V
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We use everything from milk jugs filled with rocks/concrete to cinder blocks.
They sell single hole cinder blocks that aren't that expensive, but per half block they likely weigh less than the milk jugs filled with concrete. (just saw on the website they weight 19lbs each so that's probably your best bet)
Half blocks are what I usually use and they work well. I hadn't checked the price but it has come down substantially since the last time I checked. Less than $2 a piece at a local masonry supply house. They were pushing $4 a piece last winter. Thats probably the answer.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 12:07 pm to AwgustaDawg
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They are to small to mill and to expensive to put in the landfill....
Log splitter and a lifetime supply of firewood.
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