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Are juvenile cottonmouths usually docile?

Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:32 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:32 am
Seen one looked EXACTLY like this at buccaneer state park, was maybe about a foot long. Had the yellowish tail. Was very docile, never even opened mouth or hissed.

Posted by SetTheMood
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:34 am to
I don't know if they're docile, but I believe they pack a much heavier punch when they do strike. Something to do with not being able to control the amount of venom? I remember having the same issue when I was a teenager too...
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:35 am to
The really young ones seem to try and keep a low profile. They seem to neither bow up to you nor try to get away.

It makes them easier to wack with a stick.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:37 am to
should have killed him, the women seen it and didn't want it killed etc. Didn't think it was venomous at the time, but this fricker was crawling right where my kids were walking at back of camper and 5 feet away from my lab.
Posted by Mosquito
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Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 9:52 am to
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pack a much heavier punch when they do strike. Something to do with not being able to control the amount of venom?


Not quite. Immature venomous snakes' venom packs a bigger punch per unit than adult snakes. This is simply because they have evolved to do so since they can't store as much venom when young.

However, adult snakes are always more dangerous due to the quantity of poison they can inject.


I think that is right anyway...
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 10:09 am to
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Something to do with not being able to control the amount of venom?



Correct. It is very expensive for a snake to make the venom so the older, more experienced ones may give a dry bite so they can give out their warning without wasting venom that they'd rather use on prey. Young snakes just unload everything as they haven't learned that fine motor control. Studies in some snakes like the timber rattler show that the venom can actually become more virulent as they age.
This post was edited on 5/18/15 at 10:10 am
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 10:28 am to
he wasn't old enough to know he is required to be a jerk...probably could have picked him up
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 10:43 am to
my uncle who's petrified of snakes did pick him up... he regrets it now...
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 1:06 pm to
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uncle who's petrified of snakes


quote:

did pick him up


We have a different definition of petrified
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 1:28 pm to
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We have a different definition of petrified


No he really is, it must of been the alcohol....
Posted by CarRamrod
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

Not quite. Immature venomous snakes' venom packs a bigger punch per unit than adult snakes. This is simply because they have evolved to do so since they can't store as much venom when young.

However, adult snakes are always more dangerous due to the quantity of poison they can inject.


I think that is right anyway...
i always read it was because they cant control how much they inject. And the poison in a juvenile is the same as in an adult. The adult is just able to control how much it at all there for you are more likely to get a dry bite.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 3:23 pm to
I find that they become docile within about 20-30 seconds of contact with the shovel/cane knife.
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 5/18/15 at 6:37 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/18/15 at 6:38 pm
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