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AFM/DOD Delete - 2018 Yukon Denali
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:19 pm
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:19 pm
Bought a used 2018 Yukon Denali with 96k on the clock in fantastic condition but I know the ticking time bomb that is the AFM/DOD lifters so decided to delete the system. But I'll give background to those not familiar...
The Active Fuel Management / Displacement on Demand system was likely created solely for that state on the west coast and has led to much frustration for many Chevy small block owners. It has a system of solenoids inside the valley of the motor that allow the engine to run on 4 cylinders by "deactivating" specific ones. The biggest issue with the system outside of oil consumption (some would burn a quart a month) is the fact that the AFM/DOD lifters are collapsible and sometimes do not return to the uncollapsed state (stuck lifter to the right):
Once that lifter is stuck, the heads must be removed for it to be replaced. And comparing an AFM/DOD lifter to a standard hydraulic roller lifter:
There are two ways to deal with the 4-cylinder system:
1. Range AFM/DOD Disabler: LINK
This programmer disables the 4 cylinder mode from activating and should improve reliability by not collapsing the lifters constantly. You still run the risk of a lifter getting stuck but it is less likely.
2. AFM/DOD Delete Kit: (the one I used) LINK
This kit completely removes the AFM/DOD lifters and plugs the oil holes in the valley. The newer LT-based Chevy engines require a new camshaft when deleting the system (even if using a similar profile to stock like I used). The older LS-based motors are a bit simpler and easier to delete and don't need a cam swap if sticking with stock profile.
I went with this cam because I was wanting to increase the reliability of my engine and a stage-1 or stage-2 would have required new valve springs (along with annoying the wife with the choppy idle for our family vehicle). I consulted AMS Racing before purchasing and asked about their stage-1 cam but they said outside of adding something else like headers or other mods, the gains wouldn't be very noticeable. So I stuck with a basic profile on the cam.
I had the work done by Instarice Customs out of Walker (recommended by a fellow OB poster) for around $4k and they did great work. He does the engine and transmission tune through DDTech out of Livingston. Throttle response is better, shifts are tighter, and overall the engine is more responsive without going into the 4 cylinder mode. It really woke it up!
Overall I'm content with the finished product and am happy that I won't have the same issue I had with my previous 2010 Yukon at 99k miles randomly dropping a lifter and potentially damaging the cam and engine overall. The tune also added plenty of power and is probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 500HP at the crank. I plan to drive this thing for quite some time. Some pics of the work:
Factory camshaft had one lifter with failing bearings that was starting to etch one of the lobes
Heads off
Heads and front cover removed
Heads and cam out with oil plugs installed
If you have any questions let me know.
The Active Fuel Management / Displacement on Demand system was likely created solely for that state on the west coast and has led to much frustration for many Chevy small block owners. It has a system of solenoids inside the valley of the motor that allow the engine to run on 4 cylinders by "deactivating" specific ones. The biggest issue with the system outside of oil consumption (some would burn a quart a month) is the fact that the AFM/DOD lifters are collapsible and sometimes do not return to the uncollapsed state (stuck lifter to the right):
Once that lifter is stuck, the heads must be removed for it to be replaced. And comparing an AFM/DOD lifter to a standard hydraulic roller lifter:
There are two ways to deal with the 4-cylinder system:
1. Range AFM/DOD Disabler: LINK
This programmer disables the 4 cylinder mode from activating and should improve reliability by not collapsing the lifters constantly. You still run the risk of a lifter getting stuck but it is less likely.
2. AFM/DOD Delete Kit: (the one I used) LINK
This kit completely removes the AFM/DOD lifters and plugs the oil holes in the valley. The newer LT-based Chevy engines require a new camshaft when deleting the system (even if using a similar profile to stock like I used). The older LS-based motors are a bit simpler and easier to delete and don't need a cam swap if sticking with stock profile.
I went with this cam because I was wanting to increase the reliability of my engine and a stage-1 or stage-2 would have required new valve springs (along with annoying the wife with the choppy idle for our family vehicle). I consulted AMS Racing before purchasing and asked about their stage-1 cam but they said outside of adding something else like headers or other mods, the gains wouldn't be very noticeable. So I stuck with a basic profile on the cam.
I had the work done by Instarice Customs out of Walker (recommended by a fellow OB poster) for around $4k and they did great work. He does the engine and transmission tune through DDTech out of Livingston. Throttle response is better, shifts are tighter, and overall the engine is more responsive without going into the 4 cylinder mode. It really woke it up!
Overall I'm content with the finished product and am happy that I won't have the same issue I had with my previous 2010 Yukon at 99k miles randomly dropping a lifter and potentially damaging the cam and engine overall. The tune also added plenty of power and is probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 500HP at the crank. I plan to drive this thing for quite some time. Some pics of the work:
Factory camshaft had one lifter with failing bearings that was starting to etch one of the lobes
Heads off
Heads and front cover removed
Heads and cam out with oil plugs installed
If you have any questions let me know.
Posted on 3/18/24 at 10:48 pm to bapple
Went through the headache 3 times with my 15 sierra. Parts were hard to come by during the scamdemic, so my truck sat in the back of the dealership for literally 4.5 months collectively. I installed the range after the first instance but it didnt do any good because they just kept replacing the lifters with the junk that they were pulling out. After the 3rd time, I told them they could do it right or keep it when they were done. They ended up keeping it
Current Silverado came without the dfm (chip shortage) so I’ll see how long these last before I go pulling shite apart. Probably will do the whole delete like you did
Current Silverado came without the dfm (chip shortage) so I’ll see how long these last before I go pulling shite apart. Probably will do the whole delete like you did
This post was edited on 3/18/24 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 3/19/24 at 7:18 am to Big_country346
AFM=.05 mpg extra and $$$$ in repairs for the owners.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:52 am to bapple
Just brought mine into the shop. I believe it's the lifters... We shall see
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 10:53 am
Posted on 3/19/24 at 10:54 am to KemoSabe65
quote:Turbos, too. Exploder gets 17 mpg.
AFM=.05 mpg extra and $$$$ in repairs for the owners.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:09 am to bapple
Outstanding write up.
The AFM issue was one of the major reasons I got rid of my ‘17 Silverado and got one with the 3.0 Baby Duramax.
That and the switch from the clunky 6-sp tranny to the 10-sp.
Happy camper so-far
The AFM issue was one of the major reasons I got rid of my ‘17 Silverado and got one with the 3.0 Baby Duramax.
That and the switch from the clunky 6-sp tranny to the 10-sp.
Happy camper so-far
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:33 am to White Bear
SHHHHHHHHHH, 2.7 in my new to me f150 after totaling the 3.5.
Posted on 3/19/24 at 11:42 am to bapple
Nice write up Bapple
I just put in a 6L80 tranny on my 2015 Silverado with a 5.3 at 100k miles. After reading your post on the H&G forum on your HD Tuner that you wrote, I've been investigating that option.
Did you go the route of using the Sonnax machined torque converter cover?
I just put in a 6L80 tranny on my 2015 Silverado with a 5.3 at 100k miles. After reading your post on the H&G forum on your HD Tuner that you wrote, I've been investigating that option.
Did you go the route of using the Sonnax machined torque converter cover?
Posted on 3/19/24 at 2:46 pm to AUTimbo
quote:
Johnson lifters
I was between the Delphi LS7 lifters and the GM performance ones. I went with the latter because AMS Racing told me they’d have the best reliability and are rated for 8k rpm. Not that I’ll spin the motor that much but I like the reliability .
quote:
The AFM issue was one of the major reasons I got rid of my ‘17 Silverado and got one with the 3.0 Baby Duramax. That and the switch from the clunky 6-sp tranny to the 10-sp.
I loved the L94 (LS-based) in my old Denali and have been a big fan of the L86 (LT-based) in my new one. I don’t mind a little front-end investment if I can get 10 years out of this one too. And agreed the 10 speed is very smooth. With a tune it’s even better.
quote:
Did you go the route of using the Sonnax machined torque converter cover?
I actually never touched the factory transmission outside of having it tuned and changing the fluid/filter once. It was tuned by Engine Power Systems in BR. Made it to 174k miles and was still shifting fine when I sold it. Only time you could tell it’s age is if it was cold and you’d feel some slip between gears until it warmed up.
This post was edited on 3/19/24 at 2:49 pm
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