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Advice on educating a teenager about firearm in house
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:18 pm
Top to bottom , tips of any kind . Go
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:20 pm to Chad504boy
Put them in a CC course, not for them to CC but for the learning
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:25 pm to Nascar Fan
Hunter Safety course first.
They need some very basic level understanding of the rules.
And you need to pound into them the primary rule.
Always treat all guns as if they are loaded.
That needs to be stressed to that absolute limits of their endurance because teenagers that didn't grow up having that pounded into them are fricking stupid and they think, 'yeah no problem, got it' and next thing you know they're sweeping you with the finger on the trigger.
That should elicit at the very least a verbal beat down.
They need some very basic level understanding of the rules.
And you need to pound into them the primary rule.
Always treat all guns as if they are loaded.
That needs to be stressed to that absolute limits of their endurance because teenagers that didn't grow up having that pounded into them are fricking stupid and they think, 'yeah no problem, got it' and next thing you know they're sweeping you with the finger on the trigger.
That should elicit at the very least a verbal beat down.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:26 pm to Chad504boy
Always treat every gun as if it were loaded, even after you've checked. Don't touch it unless you intend to clean or use it.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:31 pm to Stexas
That's really the key.
There are no unloaded guns. Doesn't matter if you just checked it. It's loaded. Period.
I'd also do the watermelon trick with them and milk jugs and what have you so they get a visual representation of them blowing their mom's head off because they forgot that rule.
And then take them shooting. A lot. Till that shite is just no big deal for them. But the rules about handling firearms at the house are absolutely no handling without permission unless it's to save their lives from an intruder and you're already dead or something along those lines.
It's a good time to get them to realize you're giving them a level of respect that they have earned. They like that. And they'll keep it if you do it right. You do it wrong and half arse it and they're the most dangerous thing you will ever be around.
There are no unloaded guns. Doesn't matter if you just checked it. It's loaded. Period.
I'd also do the watermelon trick with them and milk jugs and what have you so they get a visual representation of them blowing their mom's head off because they forgot that rule.
And then take them shooting. A lot. Till that shite is just no big deal for them. But the rules about handling firearms at the house are absolutely no handling without permission unless it's to save their lives from an intruder and you're already dead or something along those lines.
It's a good time to get them to realize you're giving them a level of respect that they have earned. They like that. And they'll keep it if you do it right. You do it wrong and half arse it and they're the most dangerous thing you will ever be around.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:33 pm to Chad504boy
Everyone else took some of the best ideas.
So my advice must be this: No matter what, DO NOT dress as a Mardi Gras King in adulthood.
So my advice must be this: No matter what, DO NOT dress as a Mardi Gras King in adulthood.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:36 pm to W
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Everyone else took some of the best ideas.
Except one: Chew his ever loving arse every time you catch him violating the safety rules.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:44 pm to Chad504boy
My dad showed me when I was about 8 years old what a gun could do. He bought me my first 20 gauge shotgun and it kicked like a mule the first time I shot it. I would t shooting it for a few months and the decided to do so after much bartering about it.
He walked up to a small tree and tried to push it over, to no avail. He then took my 20 gauge and shot the tree from 10 or so feet. The tree had a hole on it and fell over. I learned that day that a gun shot was much more powerful than anything man could do. This taught me to always respect where any gun was aimed and to never point a gun at something you didn't want to shoot.
He walked up to a small tree and tried to push it over, to no avail. He then took my 20 gauge and shot the tree from 10 or so feet. The tree had a hole on it and fell over. I learned that day that a gun shot was much more powerful than anything man could do. This taught me to always respect where any gun was aimed and to never point a gun at something you didn't want to shoot.
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:46 pm to faxis
quote:
Always treat all guns as if they are loaded.
Yea this probably needs to go to the top of the list
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:48 pm to Chad504boy
Find a old NRA range master full of piss and vinegar & make you kid spend time in classes with him
Posted on 5/16/13 at 10:59 pm to Springfield XD
quote:
Except one: Chew his ever loving arse every time you catch him violating the safety rules.
I'm 35 with no children.
So I agree, to a degree, with what you wrote.
Nevertheless, I imagine that I'd drop the hammer on them for violating the gun safety rules I teach them.
My punishment would include, but would not be limited to the following:
1. The only weapons they would touch would be without cartridge(s).
2. They would be dismantling. brushing, wiping and cleaning parts until their fingers bled.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 12:21 am to W
I'm a total nazi on that subject.
You want to shoot with me, you better not ever sweep me.
Ever.
Because it's gonna get uncomfortable immediately if you do.
You want to shoot with me, you better not ever sweep me.
Ever.
Because it's gonna get uncomfortable immediately if you do.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 12:44 am to Chad504boy
Solid advice above.
Definitely have him take several courses from other people. A teen will take another adult more seriously than his own parents sometimes.
Heck, it wouldn't hurt you to take the courses with him. (you'll know what was covered and can discuss it with him).
Definitely have him take several courses from other people. A teen will take another adult more seriously than his own parents sometimes.
Heck, it wouldn't hurt you to take the courses with him. (you'll know what was covered and can discuss it with him).
Posted on 5/17/13 at 6:23 am to Chad504boy
Kind of late to get in the game as a teenager but take the interest away. I remember as a kid playing with my dad's revolver when I was early teens and pulling the hammer back. I did not know how to safely put the hammer back down and that was the point that scared me most. I knew it was loaded and didn't know how to make it safe again.
Back to the advice, take them to shoot. If they show interest in it, let them handle it and be a part of cleaning them so they have more time around them to get the curiosity out.
Back to the advice, take them to shoot. If they show interest in it, let them handle it and be a part of cleaning them so they have more time around them to get the curiosity out.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 8:04 am to Stexas
quote:
Always treat every gun as if it were loaded,
And slap the everliving shite out of him every time his finger touches the trigger if he's not shooting something. Nothing, I mean NOTHING, pisses me off more than a finger on the trigger when not engaged on a target. I got on my 5 yr old last weekend for walking around with her finger on the trigger of her BB gun. It wasn't cocked, but she got the point.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 8:52 am to tenfoe
Do all of the above but also bring him to shoot a lot so that there is no mystery about firearms. My kids grew up in the country so they shot nearly every day of their lives. I leave loaded guns around my house with no worries because my kids are well versed in firearm safety and they have no desire to touch a weapon unless they plan on hunting or shooting a target. Problems occur, in my opinion, when there is a mystery about firearms and a kid wants to show a friend. If a weapon is like a tooth brush to your child they won't care and they will know to get the hell out if they are at a friend's house and a pistol is brought out by that friend.
This post was edited on 5/17/13 at 8:54 am
Posted on 5/17/13 at 10:25 am to faxis
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There are no unloaded guns. Doesn't matter if you just checked it. It's loaded. Period.
This.
It pisses me off so bad when someone says "Don't worry, I just checked it." You will hear stuff like that all the time on this board too.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 10:26 am to DanTiger
entrance wounds and exit wounds, stick his finger in them. Make sure he knows the carnage a bullet can create.
take him out and have him watch a living creature die from a single pull of the trigger.
and although I agree with everyone that a gun should always be treated as loaded, I personally believe the most important rule is Muzzle Control.
If the gun is always pointed in a safe direction then no one can ever be injured with it.
after teaching is completed, test the teaching and reinforce it on a regular basis.
Place semiauto on the counter with mag unloaded but in gun and slide closed. ASSURE THE GUN IS EMPTY!. Then wait and observe what happens.
My rule, you dont touch a firearm without verbal permission for each instance.
take him out and have him watch a living creature die from a single pull of the trigger.
and although I agree with everyone that a gun should always be treated as loaded, I personally believe the most important rule is Muzzle Control.
If the gun is always pointed in a safe direction then no one can ever be injured with it.
after teaching is completed, test the teaching and reinforce it on a regular basis.
Place semiauto on the counter with mag unloaded but in gun and slide closed. ASSURE THE GUN IS EMPTY!. Then wait and observe what happens.
My rule, you dont touch a firearm without verbal permission for each instance.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 10:41 am to Bleeding purple
quote:
although I agree with everyone that a gun should always be treated as loaded, I personally believe the most important rule is Muzzle Control.
I would think those rules are the same.
Posted on 5/17/13 at 11:05 am to TigerDeacon
I could see that.
I just dont want it to be implied.
When I ask my boys "what is the first rule" the answer must be keep muzzle in safe direction.
I just dont want it to be implied.
When I ask my boys "what is the first rule" the answer must be keep muzzle in safe direction.
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