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2015 Hobie Outback vs. Old Town Predator XL Minn Kota
Posted on 12/29/14 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 12/29/14 at 2:08 pm
I think I have narrowed it down to these two. The PA is just too dang expensive, especially for a first Kayak.
Outback:
- Seems like a great set up with proven tech. Only drawback I see is limited standing area/length and limited mounting space without drilling in to boat. Also stuck using lowrance (right?)
Predator:
- Love the fact I could pull out the trolling motor and use the flat pod for shallow water trips, and cover more ground on lake days. Drawback is that it is a brand new set up and is the pricier of the two. Also less exercise.
Anything I am failing to consider. Anyone used the Predator yet?
Outback:
- Seems like a great set up with proven tech. Only drawback I see is limited standing area/length and limited mounting space without drilling in to boat. Also stuck using lowrance (right?)
Predator:
- Love the fact I could pull out the trolling motor and use the flat pod for shallow water trips, and cover more ground on lake days. Drawback is that it is a brand new set up and is the pricier of the two. Also less exercise.
Anything I am failing to consider. Anyone used the Predator yet?
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 2:09 pm to KABoss02
You don't HAVE to use lowrance in an outback. Also, the standing room is ample. I have a 14, which has less space, and I stand fine
The 15 outback might be the most versatile kayak ever
The 15 outback might be the most versatile kayak ever
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 12/29/14 at 2:12 pm to jimbeam
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You don't HAVE to use lowrance in an outback
Isn't the wire already run and everything? I would feel silly being stubborn and not just going with Lowrance. I have nothing against them, just hate being told what to do...
Posted on 12/29/14 at 2:12 pm to KABoss02
I vote Hobie 15.
Trolling motor = Heavy arse motor, Heavy arse battery, limited range, registering your kayak.
I think I agree with most versatile kayak commment.
Trolling motor = Heavy arse motor, Heavy arse battery, limited range, registering your kayak.
I think I agree with most versatile kayak commment.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 2:13 pm to KABoss02
It's just an opening for your transducer and a couple of strategically placed holes to run your wire. I would imagine any brand would work.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 2:14 pm to KABoss02
No it just has the mount. In mine anyway. Only took 15 min to get it all set up.
The 15 outback seat is also awesome
The 15 outback seat is also awesome
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 12/29/14 at 2:17 pm to jimbeam
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No it just has the mount. In mine anyway. Only took 15 min to get it all set up.
Thanks - Good to know
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The 15 outback seat is also awesome
I am pumped about this, really let me consider Hobie due to the PA being so high. I wanted a good seat and that kept me from buying an outback at our boat show last year.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 2:19 pm to DownSouthDave
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Trolling motor = Heavy arse motor, Heavy arse battery, limited range, registering your kayak.
I hear you - Seems like the run times they are advertising are pretty legit and it looks really easy to take in and out (similar to mirage drive).
Trolling for stripper is fun up here on Lake Texoma, kind of like the idea of being able to hold a constant speed with a trolling motor.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 2:22 pm to KABoss02
You can troll a Hobie at a constant speed with the mirage drive... for hours, no problem. It's super efficient.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 2:28 pm to DownSouthDave
How hard has it been to mount tracks and other accessories? Are there enough flat surfaces?
Posted on 12/29/14 at 2:31 pm to KABoss02
I have the PA14, it has those sacrificial plates to mount stuff on. I can't speak of the new Outback, but I have fished with a guy who had an old model. He had all his crap mounted, don't know how much of a hassle it is. I'm sure there are a few videos on rigging the new Outback. I think they will mount accessories free when you buy it.
ETA: I highly doubt Hobie designed this new boat without easy ways to mount accessories, this is a purpose built boat. It's designed to fish, so I am sure they will have places to put things.
ETA: I highly doubt Hobie designed this new boat without easy ways to mount accessories, this is a purpose built boat. It's designed to fish, so I am sure they will have places to put things.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:03 pm to KABoss02
I have a 2015 Outback and have been researching fish finders/GPS' for a while now. You can mount several different brands other than lowrance, just make sure the transducer fits in the housing provided. There is a youtube video of a guy using a dremmel on the transducer plate to make a hummingbird fit.
I vote the Outback. I've been out 5 times in mine since I got it in late November, and it really is the tits. It took a little while to figure out where I wanted to store everything, but it's a well oiled machine now.
I highly recommend adding the rectangular storage hatch and sailing rudder. I got the Yak Attack Black Pack for Christmas, and the added rod holders and storage is nice as well.
ETA: Just looked up the Old Town. For that kind of money, go Hobie, you will not be disappointed. Plus, Hobie makes a trolling motor kit.
I vote the Outback. I've been out 5 times in mine since I got it in late November, and it really is the tits. It took a little while to figure out where I wanted to store everything, but it's a well oiled machine now.
I highly recommend adding the rectangular storage hatch and sailing rudder. I got the Yak Attack Black Pack for Christmas, and the added rod holders and storage is nice as well.
ETA: Just looked up the Old Town. For that kind of money, go Hobie, you will not be disappointed. Plus, Hobie makes a trolling motor kit.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:05 pm to KABoss02
A friend of mine has a predator. It's nice looking yak. Stable, fast, and tracks well. He loves it. That's about all I can offer.
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